Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1729
What Has Been Related About The Skins Of Dead Animals When They Are Tanned
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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ طَرِيفٍ الْكُوفِيُّ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ فُضَيْلٍ عَنِ الأَعْمَشِ وَالشَّيْبَانِيِّ عَنِ الْحَكَمِ عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ أَبِي لَيْلَى عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُكَيْمٍ قَالَ
أَتَانَا كِتَابُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ أَنْ لاَ تَنْتَفِعُوا مِنَ الْمَيْتَةِ بِإِهَابٍ وَلاَ عَصَبٍ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. Ṭarīf al-Kūfī
- Muḥammad b. Fuḍayl
- al-Aʿmash and -al-Shhaybānī
- al-Ḥakam
- ʿAbd al-Raḥman b. Abū Laylá
- ʿAbdullāh b. ʿUkaym
"A letter came from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ saying: 'Do not use the skins of dead animals, nor tendons.'"
Notes
[Abu 'Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan. This Hadith has been related to 'Abdullah bin 'Ukaim from some Shuyukh of his, and this is not acted upon according to most of the people of knowledge. And this Hadith has been related from 'Abdullah bin 'Ukaim, that he said: "A letter came to us from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ two months before he died." He said: I heart Ahmad bin Al-Hasan saying: "Ahmad bin Hanbal followed this Hadith due to it mentioning that it was two months before he ﷺ died. Then Ahmad left this Hadith because of their Idtirab in its chain, since some of them reported it, saying: 'From 'Abdullah bin 'Ukaim from some Shuyukh of his from Juhainah.'"
قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ وَيُرْوَى عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُكَيْمٍ عَنْ أَشْيَاخٍ لَهُمْ هَذَا الْحَدِيثُ وَلَيْسَ الْعَمَلُ عَلَى هَذَا عِنْدَ أَكْثَرِ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ وَقَدْ رُوِيَ هَذَا الْحَدِيثُ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُكَيْمٍ أَنَّهُ قَالَ أَتَانَا كِتَابُ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ قَبْلَ وَفَاتِهِ بِشَهْرَيْنِ قَالَ وَسَمِعْتُ أَحْمَدَ بْنَ الْحَسَنِ يَقُولُ كَانَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ يَذْهَبُ إِلَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثِ لِمَا ذُكِرَ فِيهِ قَبْلَ وَفَاتِهِ بِشَهْرَيْنِ وَكَانَ يَقُولُ كَانَ هَذَا آخِرَ أَمْرِ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ ثُمَّ تَرَكَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ لَمَّا اضْطَرَبُوا فِي إِسْنَادِهِ حَيْثُ رَوَى بَعْضُهُمْ فَقَالَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُكَيْمٍ عَنْ أَشْيَاخٍ لَهُمْ مِنْ جُهَيْنَةَ
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | SoundAnother source records this grader as “Hasan” (fawazahmed0). | hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Ahmad Muhammad Shakir | Sahih | fawazahmed0 |
| Bashar Awad Maarouf | Hasan | fawazahmed0 |
| al-Albani | Soundin صحيح سنن الترمذي, p. 1729 | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked |
| al-Tirmidhi | Goodin جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 | hadithunlocked |
What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- al-Tirmidhi
حسنه
machine translationHe graded it good (ḥasan).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
وأعله بعضهم بكونه كتابا وليس بعلة قادحة وبأن في إسناده اضطرابا ورده ابن حبان بأن ابن عليم سمع الكتاب يقرأ وسمعه مشايخ من جهينة من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فلا اضطراب
machine translationSome of them declared it defective (aʿalla) because it was a written document (kitāb), but that is not a damaging defect; and because its chain contains inconsistency (iḍṭirāb). Ibn Ḥibbān rejected this, saying that Ibn ʿUkaym heard the document being read out, and that elders from Juhaynah heard it from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, so there is no inconsistency.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
تركه
machine translationHe abandoned it.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Mubarakpūri
حديث لا يصلح للاحتجاج
machine translationA hadith not fit to be used as evidence.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845
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- al-Tirmidhi
حديث حسن
machine translationA good (ḥasan) hadith.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - al-Tirmidhi
هذا حديث حسن
machine translationThis is a good (ḥasan) hadith.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - ʿAbd al-Raḥmān b. al-Jawzī
وحديث ابن عكيم مضطرب جدا فلا يقاوم الأول لأنه في الصحيحين يعني حديث ميمونة
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Aḥmad ibn Shuʿayb al-Nasāʾī
أصح ما في هذا الباب في جلود الميتة إذا دبغت حديث الزهري عن عبيد الله بن عبد الله عن ابن عباس عن ميمونة
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Abū Bakr Aḥmad b. al-Ḥusayn al-Bayhaqī
هذا الخبر مرسل
machine translationThis report is mursal (with the Companion omitted from the chain).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Khaṭṭābī
هذا الخبر مرسل
machine translationThis report is mursal (with the Companion omitted from the chain).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - al-Tirmidhi
وسمعت أحمد بن الحسن يقول كان أحمد بن حنبل يذهب إلى هذا الحديث قبل وفاته بشهرين ويقول كان هذا آخر أمر النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ثم ترك أحمد بن حنبل هذا الحديث لما اضطربوا في إسناده
machine translationI heard Aḥmad b. al-Ḥasan say: Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal held to this hadith until two months before his death, and he would say: this was the last of the Prophet's ﷺ affairs. Then Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal abandoned this hadith when they differed inconsistently (iḍṭirāb) about its chain.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
ثم تركه الإمام أحمد لما اضطربوا في إسناده
machine translationThen Imam Aḥmad abandoned it when they differed inconsistently (iḍṭirāb) about its chain.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Ibn Daqīq al-ʿĪd
تضعيف من ضعفه ليس من قبل الرجال فإنهم كلهم ثقات وإنما ينبغي أن يحمل الضعف على الاضطراب
machine translationThe weakening by those who weakened it is not because of the men, for they are all trustworthy (thiqāt); rather the weakness should be attributed to the inconsistency (iḍṭirāb).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Mubarakpūri
في كونه حسنا كلام كما ستقف عليه
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845 - Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
ترك هذا الحديث لما اضطربوا في إسناده
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1845
Same hadith, other wordings
- Misykatul Mashabih 508وَعَن عبد الله بن عكيم قَالَ: أَتَانَا كِتَابُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «أَنْ لَا تَنْتَفِعُوا مِنَ الْمَيْتَةِ بِإِهَابٍ وَلَا عَصَبٍ». رَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيُّ وَأَبُو دَاوُدَ وَالنَّسَائِيُّ وَابْنُ مَاجَهْ
- Sunan Ibnu Majah 3613أَتَانَا كِتَابُ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ أَنْ لاَ تَنْتَفِعُوا مِنَ الْمَيْتَةِ بِإِهَابٍ وَلاَ عَصَبٍ
- Sunan Abu Dawud 4127أَنْ لاَ تَسْتَمْتِعُوا مِنَ الْمَيْتَةِ بِإِهَابٍ وَلاَ عَصَبٍ
- Sunan an-Nasa'i 4250أَنْ لاَ تَسْتَمْتِعُوا مِنَ الْمَيْتَةِ بِإِهَابٍ وَلاَ عَصَبٍ
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- d. during the governorship of al-Ḥajjāj b. Yūsuf, also said: 88 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عُكَيْمٍ الْجُهَنِيُّعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 82 AH, or 83 AH, also said: 71 AH, which is a mistakeعَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ أَبِي لَيْلَىثقةعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a jurist (faqīh), except that he sometimes practised concealment (tadlīs)d. 113 AH, or 114 AH, or 115; also said 110 AHالْحَكَمِثقة ثبت فقيه ، إلا أنه ربما دلسعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. in Tārīkh Ibn Abī ʿĀṣim: 128 AH. Al-Wāqidī said, and Yaḥyā b. Bukayr: 129 AH. ʿAmr b. ʿAlī said, and Abū ʿĪsā al-Tirmidhī: 138 AH. Abū Muʿāwiyah said, and Muḥammad b. ʿAbd Allāh b. Numayr: 139 AH. Al-Bukhārī said: 141 AH or 142 AH. Al-Haytham b. ʿAdī said: he died when two years of Abū Jaʿfar's caliphate had passedوَالشَّيْبَانِيِّثقةعن
- truthful (ṣadūq), knowledgeable (ʿārif), accused of Shīʿism (tashayyuʿ)d. 194 AH, or 195 AHمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ فُضَيْلٍصدوق عارف ، رمي بالتشيعحدثنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 242 AH, also said before thatمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ طَرِيفٍ الْكُوفِيُّصدوقحدثنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AHالتِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ
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