Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1045
What has been related about the saying of the Prophet ﷺ : The Lahd is for us and the Hole is for other than us
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حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو كُرَيْبٍ وَنَصْرُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ الْكُوفِيُّ وَيُوسُفُ بْنُ مُوسَى الْقَطَّانُ الْبَغْدَادِيُّ قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا حَكَّامُ بْنُ سَلْمٍ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ عَبْدِ الأَعْلَى عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُبَيْرٍ عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ
اللَّحْدُ لَنَا وَالشَّقُّ لِغَيْرِنَا
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Abū Kurayb and Naṣr b. ʿAbd al-Raḥman al-Kūfī Wayūsuf b. Mūsá al-Qaṭṭān al-Baghdādī
- Ḥakkām b. Salm
- ʿAlī b. ʿAbd al-Aʿlá
- his father
- Saʿīd b. Jubayr
- Ibn ʿAbbās
- al-Nabī ﷺ
The Prophet said: "The Lahd is for us and the hole is for other than us."
Notes
وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ جَرِيرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ وَعَائِشَةَ وَابْنِ عُمَرَ وَجَابِرٍ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى حَدِيثُ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ حَدِيثٌ غَرِيبٌ مِنْ هَذَا الْوَجْهِ
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | Weak | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Ahmad Muhammad Shakir | Sahih | fawazahmed0 |
| Ibn al-Sakan | Soundin جامع الترمذي, p. 1079 | hadithunlocked |
| al-Albani | Sahih | fawazahmed0 |
What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- al-Tirmidhi
حديث غريب من هذا الوجه
machine translationA gharīb ḥadīth from this route.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1079 - ابن الملقن
إسناده ضعيف فإن في إسناده عبد الأعلى بن عامر ومدار الحديث عليه وهو غير محتج بحديثه
machine translationIts chain is weak (ḍaʿīf), because in its chain is ʿAbd al-Aʿlā b. ʿĀmir, and the hadith revolves around him, and his hadith is not to be used as evidence.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1079 - Ibn al-Qaṭṭān
أراه لا يصح من أجلهيعنى عبد الأعلى بن عامر الثعلبي كان ابن مهدي لا يحدث عنه ووصفه بالاضطراب وقال أبو زرعة ضعيف وربما رفع الحديث وربما وقفه وقال ابن عدي قال أحمد رضي الله عنه منكر الحديث حدث عن سعيد بن جبير وابن الحنفية وأبي عبد الرحمن السلمي بأشياء لا يتابع عليها
machine translationI see that it is not sound because of him, meaning ʿAbd al-Aʿlā b. ʿĀmir al-Thaʿlabī. Ibn Mahdī used not to narrate from him and described him as inconsistent (muḍṭarib). Abū Zurʿah said: weak (ḍaʿīf); at times he would raise the hadith to the Prophet (marfūʿ) and at times he would stop it at the Companion (mawqūf). Ibn ʿAdī said: Aḥmad, may God be pleased with him, said: he is of rejected hadith (munkar al-ḥadīth). He narrated from Saʿīd b. Jubayr, Ibn al-Ḥanafiyyah and Abū ʿAbd al-Raḥmān al-Sulamī things in which he is not corroborated.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1079 - Shawkānī
حسنه الترمذي كما وجدنا ذلك في بعض النسخ الصحيحة من جامعه
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1079
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- Shawkānī
في إسناده عبد الأعلى بن عامر وهو ضعيف
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1079 - ابن السكن سعيد بن عثمان
صححه
machine translationHe declared it sound (ṣaḥḥaḥahu).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1079 - al-Tirmidhi
غريب من هذا الوجه
machine translationStrange (gharīb) from this route.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 1079
Other narrations of this report
Sunan Abi Dawud 3208Musnad Ahmad 19158Musnad Ahmad 19213al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Nasa'i) 2148
Narrators
- One of the Companions who narrated most prolifically (mukthirūn).d. 65 AH, or 67 AH, or 68 AH, also said: 69 AH, also said: 70 AH; also said: 73 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عَبَّاسٍأحد المكثرين من الصحابةعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a jurist (faqīh); his narration from ʿĀʾishah, Abū Mūsā and the like is mursald. 95 AH, from al-Fallās: 94 AHسَعِيدِ بْنِ جُبَيْرٍثقة ثبت فقيه ، وروايته عن عائشة وأبي موسى ونحوهما مرسلةعن
- truthful (ṣadūq), prone to error (yahim)d. between 121 and 140 AHأَبِيهِصدوق يهمعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq), who sometimes made errors (wahm)d. between 141 and 150 AHعَلِيِّ بْنِ عَبْدِ الْأَعْلَىصدوق ، ربما وهمعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), has unusual reports (gharāʾib)d. 190 AHحَكَّامُ بْنُ سَلْمٍثقة ، له غرائبحدثنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 253 AHوَيُوسُفُ بْنُ مُوسَى الْقَطَّانُ الْبَغْدَادِيُّصدوقحدثنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AHالتِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.
Commentaries
Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Mirʿāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mubārakfūrī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)
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