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Jami' at-Tirmidhi 10

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وَقَدْ رَوَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ ابْنُ لَهِيعَةَ عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ عَنْ جَابِرٍ عَنْ أَبِي قَتَادَةَ أَنَّهُ

رَأَى النَّبِيَّ ﷺ يَبُولُ مُسْتَقْبِلَ الْقِبْلَةِ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Abū al-Zubayr
  2. Jābir
  3. Abū Qatādah

he saw the Prophet urinating while facing the Qiblah. Qutaibah narrated that to us, he said: "Ibn Lahi'ah informed us." Jabir's Hadlth about the Prophet is more correct than the Hadith of Ibn Lahi'ah. Ibn Lahi'ah is weak according to the scholars of Hadith. He was graded weak by Yahya bin Sa'eed Al-Qattan, and others, [due to his memorization].

Notes

  • حَدَّثَنَا بِذَلِكَ قُتَيْبَةُ حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ لَهِيعَةَ وَحَدِيثُ جَابِرٍ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ أَصَحُّ مِنْ حَدِيثِ ابْنِ لَهِيعَةَ وَابْنُ لَهِيعَةَ ضَعِيفٌ عِنْدَ أَهْلِ الْحَدِيثِ ضَعَّفَهُ يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الْقَطَّانُ وَغَيْرُهُ مِنْ قِبَلِ حِفْظِهِ

    machine translationQutaybah narrated this to us, (he said) Ibn Lahīʿah narrated to us. The hadith of Jābir from the Prophet ﷺ is more authentic (aṣaḥḥ) than the hadith of Ibn Lahīʿah, and Ibn Lahīʿah is weak (ḍaʿīf) according to the scholars of hadith. Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd al-Qaṭṭān and others weakened him on account of his memorization.

Grades by grader

Zubair Ali ZaiGoodAnother source records this grader as “Daif” (fawazahmed0).hadithunlocked, sunnah.com
Ahmad Muhammad ShakirDaif Isnaadfawazahmed0
Bashar Awad MaaroufDaiffawazahmed0
al-AlbaniDaif Isnaadfawazahmed0
al-TirmidhiWeak Chainin الجامع الصحيح - سنن الترمذي, p. 10hadithunlocked

What scholars said about it

In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.

  • al-Tirmidhi

    حديث جابر عن أبي قتادة غير محفوظ

    machine translationThe hadith of Jābir from Abū Qatādah is not preserved (ghayr maḥfūẓ).

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 10
  • al-Tirmidhi

    وحديث جابر عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أصح من حديث ابن لهيعة

    machine translationThe hadith of Jābir from the Prophet ﷺ is more authentic (aṣaḥḥ) than the hadith of Ibn Lahīʿah.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 10
  • al-Tirmidhi

    [فيه] ابن لهيعة ضعيف عند أهل الحديث

    machine translation[In it is] Ibn Lahīʿah, who is weak (ḍaʿīf) according to the scholars of hadith.

    in سنن الترمذي, p. 10

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. He took part in Uḥud and the battles after itd. al-Ḥasan b. ʿUthmān said: 40 AH, al-Wāqidī said: 54 AH, the people of Kufa reported that he died: 38 AH, al-Bukhārī mentioned him in al-Awsaṭ, among those who died between 50 AH and 60 AH
    أَبُو قَتَادَةَ الْأَنْصَارِيُّ فَارِسُ رَسُولِ اللهِشهد أحدا وما بعدها
    عن
  2. Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. al-Haytham b. ʿAdī said, and Khalīfah b. Khayyāṭ in some reports from them: 68 AH. Abū Sulaymān b. Zabr said: 72 AH. Muḥammad b. Saʿd said, and al-Haytham b. ʿAdī in another report: 73 AH. Muḥammad b. Yaḥyā b. Ḥabbān said: 77 AH. Abū ʿAwn al-Madanī and others said: 78 AH. Abū Nuʿaym and Khalīfah b. Khayyāṭ in another report said: 79 AH
    جَابِرٍصحابي
    عن
  3. Truthful (ṣadūq), except that he practiced concealment (yudallis)d. before 126 AH, or 128 AH
    أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِصدوق إلا أنه يدلس
    عن
  4. Truthful (ṣadūq); his memory became confused after his books were burned (khallaṭa baʿda iḥtirāq kutubihi); the narrations of Ibn al-Mubārak and Ibn Wahb from him are more sound than those of others.d. 173 AH, or 174 AH, also said 170 AH, also said 175 AH
    عبد الله بن لهيعةصدوق ، خلط بعد احتراق كتبه ، ورواية ابن المبارك وابن وهب عنه أعدل من غيرهما
    أخبرنا
  5. trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 240 AH, or: 241 AH
    قتيبة بن سعيدثقة ثبت
    أخبرنا
  6. trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AH
    التِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ

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