Sunan Abi Dawud 4723
The Jahmiyyah
Show the chain
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ الْبَزَّازُ حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي ثَوْرٍ عَنْ سِمَاكٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمِيرَةَ عَنِ الأَحْنَفِ بْنِ قَيْسٍ عَنِ الْعَبَّاسِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الْمُطَّلِبِ قَالَ
كُنْتُ فِي الْبَطْحَاءِ فِي عِصَابَةٍ فِيهِمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ فَمَرَّتْ بِهِمْ سَحَابَةٌ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهَا فَقَالَ مَا تُسَمُّونَ هَذِهِ قَالُوا السَّحَابَ قَالَ وَالْمُزْنَ قَالُوا وَالْمُزْنَ قَالَ وَالْعَنَانَ قَالُوا وَالْعَنَانَ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. al-Ṣabbāḥ al-Bazzāz
- al-Walīd b. Abū Thawr
- Simāk
- ʿAbdullāh b. ʿAmīrah
- al-Aḥnaf b. Qays
- al-ʿAbbās b. ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib
I was sitting in al-Batha with a company among whom the Messenger of Allah ﷺ was sitting, when a cloud passed above them. The Messenger of Allah ﷺ looked at it and said: What do you call this? They said: Sahab. He said: And muzn? They said: And muzn. He said: And anan? They said: And anan. AbuDawud said: I am not quite confident about the word anan. He asked: Do you know the distance between Heaven and Earth? They replied: We do not know. He then said: The distance between them is seventy-one, seventy-two, or seventy-three years. The heaven which is above it is at a similar distance (going on till he counted seven heavens). Above the seventh heaven there is a sea, the distance between whose surface and bottom is like that between one heaven and the next. Above that there are eight mountain goats the distance between whose hoofs and haunches is like the distance between one heaven and the next. Then Allah, the Blessed and the Exalted, is above that.
Notes
قَالَ أَبُو دَاوُدَ لَمْ أُتْقِنِ الْعَنَانَ جَيِّدًا قَالَ هَلْ تَدْرُونَ مَا بُعْدُ مَا بَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ وَالأَرْضِ قَالُوا لاَ نَدْرِي قَالَ إِنَّ بُعْدَ مَا بَيْنَهُمَا إِمَّا وَاحِدَةٌ أَوِ اثْنَتَانِ أَوْ ثَلاَثٌ وَسَبْعُونَ سَنَةً ثُمَّ السَّمَاءُ فَوْقَهَا كَذَلِكَ حَتَّى عَدَّ سَبْعَ سَمَوَاتٍ ثُمَّ فَوْقَ السَّابِعَةِ بَحْرٌ بَيْنَ أَسْفَلِهِ وَأَعْلاَهُ مِثْلُ مَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ثُمَّ فَوْقَ ذَلِكَ ثَمَانِيَةُ أَوْعَالٍ بَيْنَ أَظْلاَفِهِمْ وَرُكَبِهِمْ مِثْلُ مَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ثُمَّ عَلَى ظُهُورِهِمُ الْعَرْشُ بَيْنَ أَسْفَلِهِ وَأَعْلاَهُ مِثْلُ مَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ثُمَّ اللَّهُ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى فَوْقَ ذَلِكَ
machine translationAbū Dāwūd said: I did not memorize al-ʿanān well. He said: "Do you know how far it is between the heaven and the earth?" They said: "We do not know." He said: "The distance between them is either seventy-one, seventy-two, or seventy-three years. Then the heaven above it is the same, until he counted seven heavens. Then above the seventh is a sea, the distance between its bottom and its top being like the distance from one heaven to another. Then above that are eight mountain goats, the distance between their hooves and their knees being like the distance from one heaven to another. Then on their backs is the Throne, the distance between its bottom and its top being like the distance from one heaven to another. Then Allah, Blessed and Exalted, is above that."
Grades by grader
| al-Albani | Weakin ضعيف أبي داود, p. 4723 | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Shuayb al-Arnaut | Weak Chainin تخريج سنن أبي داود, p. 4723 | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked |
| Zubair Ali Zai | Daif | fawazahmed0 |
What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- Ibn Khuzaymah
صححه
machine translationHe declared it sound (ṣaḥḥaḥahu).
in سنن أبي داود, p. 4708 - Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr
لا أعلم في هذا الباب حديثا مرفوعا إلا حديث عبد الله بن عميرة وهو حديث مشهور بهذا الإسناد رواه عن سماك جماعة منهم أبو خالد الدالاني وعمر وابن أبي عمرو بن أبي قيس وشعيب بن أبي خالد وابن أبي المقدام وإبراهيم بن طهمان والوليد بن أبي ثور
machine translationI do not know of any raised (marfūʿ) ḥadīth on this topic except the ḥadīth of ʿAbdullāh b. ʿUmayrah, and it is a well-known (mashhūr) ḥadīth with this chain. A group narrated it from Simāk, among them Abū Khālid al-Dālānī, ʿUmar and Ibn Abī ʿAmr b. Abī Qays, Shuʿayb b. Abī Khālid, Ibn Abī al-Miqdām, Ibrāhīm b. Ṭahmān and al-Walīd b. Abī Thawr.
in سنن أبي داود, p. 4708 - Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
فيه عن سماك اختلاف قال البخاري لا يعلم له سماع من الأحنف
machine translationThere is disagreement about it from Simāk. al-Bukhārī said: It is not known that he heard from al-Aḥnaf.
in سنن أبي داود, p. 4708 - al-Tirmidhi
حسن غريب
machine translationGood and gharīb (ḥasan gharīb).
in سنن أبي داود, p. 4708
Same hadith, other wordings
- Misykatul Mashabih 5726وَعَن العبَّاس بن عبد الْمطلب زعم أَنَّهُ كَانَ جَالِسًا فِي الْبَطْحَاءِ فِي عِصَابَةٍ وَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ جَالِسٌ فِيهِمْ فَمَرَّتْ سَحَابَةٌ فَنَظَرُوا إِلَيْهَا فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَ
Other narrations of this report
Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3298Musnad Ahmad 1771Musnad al-Bazzar 9564al-Mustadrak (al-Hakim) 3137al-Mustadrak (al-Hakim) 3428al-Mustadrak (al-Hakim) 3547
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 32 AH, or: 33 AH, or: 34 AHالعَبَّاس بن عَبْد المُطَّلِب عَمّ رَسُول اللهصحابيعن
- a mukhaḍram, trustworthy (thiqah)d. it is said: 67 AH, or: 68 AH, also said: 71 AH, also said: 72 AHالْأَحْنَفِ بْنِ قَيْسٍمخضرم ثقةعن
- acceptable (maqbūl)عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عَمِيرَةَمقبولعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq); his narrations from ʿIkrimah in particular are inconsistent (muḍṭarib); he changed (taghayyara) towards the end of his life, and at times he would accept prompting (yulaqqan).d. 123 AHسِمَاكٍصدوق , وروايته عن عكرمة خاصة مضطربة , وقد تغير بأخرة ، فكان ربما يلقنعن
- weak (ḍaʿīf)d. 172 AHالْوَلِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي ثَوْرٍضعيفنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 227 AHمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ الْبَزَّازُثقة حافظحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), the compiler of the Sunan and other works, one of the senior scholars.d. 275 AHأَبُو دَاوُدَ السِّجِسْتَانِيُّثقة ، حافظ , مصنف السنن وغيرها ، من كبار العلماء
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.
Commentaries
Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
ʿAwn al-Maʿbūd (Ashraf)
Read them on Hadith Unlocked