al-Mu'jam al-Awsat 6102
✧ Muhammad b. Abd al-Rahman Tha'lab al-Basri
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حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ ثَعْلَبٌ الْبَصْرِيُّ النَّحْوِيُّ، قَالَ: نَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ الْمُقْرِئُ، قَالَ: نَا أَبِي، قَالَ: نَا هَمَّامٌ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ بْنِ عُيَيْنَةَ وَمَنْصُورِ بْنِ الْمُعْتَمِرِ، وَبَكْرِ بْنِ وَائِلٍ، وَزِيَادِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، عَنْ سَالِمٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ:
رَأَيْتُ النَّبِيَّ ﷺ وَأَبَا بَكْرٍ، وَعُمَرَ، وَعُثْمَانَ يَمْشُونَ أَمَامَ الْجِنَازَةِ
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Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. ʿAbd al-Raḥman Thaʿlab al-Baṣrī al-Naḥwī
- Muḥammad b. ʿAbdullāh b. Yazīd al-Muqriʾ
- my father
- Hammām
- Sufyān b. ʿUyaynah and Manṣūr b. al-Muʿtamir Wabakr b. Wāʾil Waziyād b. Saʿd
- al-Zuhrī
- Sālim
- his father
✧ I saw the Prophet ﷺ, Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman walking in front of the funeral procession.
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- Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr
وقد روى وهب الله بن راشد عن يونس عن الزهري في هذا حديثا أخطأ في إسناده ومتنه وكذلك رواه محمد بن بكر البرساني عن يونس عن الزهري عن أنس وهذا خطأ لا شك فيه لا أدري ممن جاء وإنما رواية يونس لهذا الحديث عن الزهري عن سالم مرسلا وبعضهم يرويه عنه عن الزهري عن سالم عن أبيه مسندا والذين يروونه عنه مرسلا أكثر وأحفظ وأما قوله وخلفها فلا يصح في هذا الحديث وهي لفظة منكرة فيه لا يقولها أحد من رواته
machine translationWahb Allāh b. Rāshid also narrated from Yūnus, from al-Zuhrī, a ḥadīth on this subject in which he erred in both its chain and its text. Likewise Muḥammad b. Bakr al-Bursānī narrated it from Yūnus, from al-Zuhrī, from Anas. This is a mistake about which there is no doubt; I do not know from whom it came. Yūnus's narration of this ḥadīth is only from al-Zuhrī, from Sālim, as a mursal report. Some narrate it from him, from al-Zuhrī, from Sālim, from his father, as a connected (musnad) report, but those who narrate it from him as mursal are more numerous and better memorizers. As for the saying "and behind it", it is not sound in this ḥadīth; it is a rejected (munkar) wording in it that none of its narrators say.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - al-Tirmidhi
أهل الحديث كلهم يرون الحديث المرسل في ذلك أصح
machine translationAll the people of ḥadīth consider the mursal report on this matter to be the more authentic.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - al-Bukhari
الحديث الصحيح هو هذا يعني المرسل
machine translationThe authentic ḥadīth is this one, meaning the mursal one.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Aḥmad ibn Shuʿayb al-Nasāʾī
هذا خطأ والصواب مرسل
machine translationThis is an error, and the correct version is mursal.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102
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- Ibn al-Mubārak
حديث الزهري في هذا مرسل أصح من حديث ابن عيينة وقد وافقه على رفعه ابن جريج وزياد بن سعد وغير واحد
machine translationThe ḥadīth of al-Zuhrī on this matter, as mursal, is more authentic than the ḥadīth of Ibn ʿUyaynah. Ibn Jurayj, Ziyād b. Saʿd and others agreed with him in attributing it to the Prophet (marfūʿ).
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - إبراهيم بن المنذر الحزامي
جزم بصحته
machine translationHe was certain of its authenticity.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - محمد بن إبراهيم بن المنذر النيسابوري
وجزم بصحته ابن المنذر يعني الموصول
machine translationIbn al-Mundhir was certain of its authenticity, meaning the connected (mawṣūl) version.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
إنما هو عن الزهري مرسل وحديث سالم فعل ابن عمر وحديث ابن عيينة وهم
machine translationIt is only from al-Zuhrī as mursal. The ḥadīth of Sālim is an action of Ibn ʿUmar, and the ḥadīth of Ibn ʿUyaynah is an error.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Ibn al-Mubārak
أهل الحديث يرون المرسل أصح
machine translationThe people of ḥadīth consider the mursal version to be more authentic.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Aḥmad ibn Shuʿayb al-Nasāʾī
وصله خطأ والصواب مرسل
machine translationHe connected its chain (waṣalahu) by mistake; the correct form is that it is mursal.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Dāraquṭnī
وقد ذكر الدارقطني في العلل اختلافا كثيرا فيه على الزهري قال والصحيح قول من قال عن الزهري عن سالم عن أبيه أنه كان يمشي قال وقد مشى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وأبو بكر وعمر
machine translational-Dāraquṭnī mentioned in al-ʿIlal much disagreement about it on the authority of al-Zuhrī. He said: The correct report is that of those who said: from al-Zuhrī, from Sālim, from his father, that he used to walk. He said: And the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, Abū Bakr and ʿUmar walked.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Abū Bakr Aḥmad b. al-Ḥusayn al-Bayhaqī
واختار البيهقي ترجيح الموصول لأنه من رواية ابن عيينة وهو ثقة حافظ
machine translational-Bayhaqī chose to give preference to the connected (mawṣūl) version because it is from the narration of Ibn ʿUyaynah, who is trustworthy and a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ).
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Dāraquṭnī
والصحيح قول من قال عن الزهري عن سالم عن أبيه أنه كان يمشي قال وقد مشى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وأبو بكر وعمر
machine translationThe correct report is that of those who said: from al-Zuhrī, from Sālim, from his father, that he used to walk. He said: And the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, Abū Bakr and ʿUmar walked.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Ibn Ḥazm
جزم بصحته
machine translationHe was certain of its authenticity.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102 - Ibn Ḥazm
وجزم بصحته ابن حزم يعني الموصول
machine translationIbn Ḥazm was certain of its authenticity, meaning the connected (mawṣūl) version.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 6102
Other narrations of this report
Sunan an-Nasa'i 1912Sunan an-Nasa'i 1913Sunan an-Nasa'i 1945
Narrators
- One of the Companions who narrated most often, and one of the ʿAbādilah; he was among the people most strict in following the narrations (athar).d. 72 AH, or 73 AH, or 74 AH, also said: 75 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِأحد المكثرين من الصحابة والعبادلة ، وكان من أشد الناس اتباعا للأثرعن
- He was reliable (thabt), devout (ʿābid) and virtuous (fāḍil); he resembled his father in conduct (hady) and demeanor (samt)d. 105 AH or 106 AH or 107 AH or 108 AH, and the correct one is the firstسَالِمٍكان ثبتا عابدا فاضلا ، كان يشبه بأبيه في الهدي والسمتعن
- The jurist and memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), whose eminence, precision and reliability are agreed upond. Ḍamrah b. Rabīʿah and others said: 123 AH. The nephew of al-Zuhrī and others said: 124 AH. Ibn Yūnus and others said: 125 AHالزُّهْرِيِّالفقيه الحافظ ، متفق على جلالته وإتقانه وثبتهعن
- trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. between 141 AH and 150 AHوَزِيَادِ بْنِ سَعْدٍثقة ثبتعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), who sometimes erred (rubbamā wahima)d. 163 AH, or: 164 AH, also said: 165 AHهَمَّامٌثقة ربما وهمنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), excellent (fāḍil); he taught the recitation of the Quran for over seventy yearsd. 212 AH, or 213 AHأَبِيثقة فاضل ، أقرأ القرآن نيفا وسبعين سنةنا
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 256 AHمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ ج٦ / ص١٦٨عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ الْمُقْرِئُثقةنا
- مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ ثَعْلَبٌ الْبَصْرِيُّ النَّحْوِيُّحدثني
- d. 360 AHالطبراني
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