Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1951

What Has Been Related About Disciplining The Son

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حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَعْلَى عَنْ نَاصِحٍ عَنْ سِمَاكِ بْنِ حَرْبٍ عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ سَمُرَةَ قَالَ

قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ لأَنْ يُؤَدِّبَ الرَّجُلُ وَلَدَهُ خَيْرٌ مِنْ أَنْ يَتَصَدَّقَ بِصَاعٍ

Translation

Chain of narrators

"That a man should discipline his son is better for him than to have given a Sa' in charity."

قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ غَرِيبٌ وَنَاصِحٌ هُوَ ابْنُ الْعَلاَءِ كُوفِيٌّ لَيْسَ عِنْدَ أَهْلِ الْحَدِيثِ بِالْقَوِيِّ وَلاَ يُعْرَفُ هَذَا الْحَدِيثُ إِلاَّ مِنْ هَذَا الْوَجْهِ وَنَاصِحٌ شَيْخٌ آخَرُ بَصْرِيٌّ يَرْوِي عَنْ عَمَّارِ بْنِ أَبِي عَمَّارٍ وَغَيْرِهِ هُوَ أَثْبَتُ مِنْ هَذَا
machine translationAbū ʿĪsā said: This ḥadīth is strange (gharīb). Nāṣiḥ is Ibn al-ʿAlāʾ, a Kūfan, who is not strong according to the scholars of ḥadīth. This ḥadīth is not known except through this route. Nāṣiḥ is also another shaykh, a Baṣran, who narrates from ʿAmmār b. Abī ʿAmmār and others; he is more reliable than this one.

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Zubair Ali Zai	Weak	fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com
Ahmad Muhammad Shakir	Daif	fawazahmed0
al-Albani	Weakin ضعيف الترمذي, p. 1951	fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked

In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.

al-Tirmidhi
هذا حديث غريب
machine translationThis is a strange (gharīb) hadith.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 2089
Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
هذا حديث بهذا الإسناد منكر وناصح ضعيف الحديث
machine translationThis ḥadīth with this chain is denounced (munkar), and Nāṣiḥ is weak in ḥadīth (ḍaʿīf al-ḥadīth).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 2089
ابن عدي
وهذه الأحاديث عن سماك عن جابر بن سمرة غير محفوظة ولناصح غير ما ذكرت وهو في جملة متشيعي أهل الكوفة وهو ممن يكتب حديثه
machine translationThese ḥadīths from Simāk from Jābir b. Samurah are not preserved (ghayr maḥfūẓ). Nāṣiḥ has others besides what I have mentioned, and he is among the Shiʿites of the people of Kūfah, and is one whose ḥadīth is written down.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 2089
ابن عدي
أحاديث ناصح بن عبد الله عن سماك بن حرب عن جابر بن سمرة غير محفوظات
machine translationThe ḥadīths of Nāṣiḥ b. ʿAbdullāh from Simāk b. Ḥarb from Jābir b. Samurah are not preserved (ghayr maḥfūẓāt).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 2089

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Mubarakpūri
وهو حديث ضعيف لأن ناصحا الراوي عن سماك ليس بقوي
machine translationIt is a weak (ḍaʿīf) ḥadīth, because Nāṣiḥ, the narrator from Simāk, is not strong.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 2089
al-Tirmidhi
[فيه] ناصح ليس بالقوي
machine translation[In it] is Nāṣiḥ, who is not strong.
in سنن الترمذي, p. 1951
al-Tirmidhi
غريب [فيه] ناصح أبو العلاء ليس عند أهل الحديث بالقوي
machine translationStrange (gharīb). [In it] is Nāṣiḥ Abū al-ʿAlāʾ, who is not strong according to the scholars of ḥadīth.
in سنن الترمذي, p. 1951

Jābir b. Samurah al-Suwāʾī
Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. al-Ḥākim said: 72 AH, from Khalīfah b. Khayyāṭ: 73 AH, Abū Bakr b. Manjawayh and others said: 74 AH. It is reported from Abū ʿUbayd that he said: 66 AH, and that is a mistake
جَابِرُ بْنُ سَمُرَةَ السُّوَائِيُّصحابي
عن
Simāk b. Ḥarb al-Bakrī
Truthful (ṣadūq); his narrations from ʿIkrimah in particular are inconsistent (muḍṭarib); he changed (taghayyara) towards the end of his life, and at times he would accept prompting (yulaqqan).d. 123 AH
سِمَاكِ بْنِ حَرْبٍصدوق , وروايته عن عكرمة خاصة مضطربة , وقد تغير بأخرة ، فكان ربما يلقن
عن
Nāṣiḥ Abū ʿAbdillāh
weak (ḍaʿīf)d. between 151 and 160 AH
نَاصِحٍضعيف
عن
Yaḥyā b. Yaʿlā al-Aslamī
weak (ḍaʿīf), Shiʿite (shīʿī)d. between 181 and 190 AH
يَحْيَى بْنُ يَعْلَىضعيف ، شيعي
حدثنا
Qutaybah b. Saʿīd
trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 240 AH, or: 241 AH
قُتَيْبَةُثقة ثبت
حدثنا
al-Tirmidhī
trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AH
التِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ

Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com

Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.

Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)

Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)

Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)