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Sunan Ibn Majah 622

What was narrated concerning the non-menstrually bleeding woman who has counted the days of her period before her flow of blood became continuous

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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ إِمْلاَءً عَلَىَّ مِنْ كِتَابِهِ وَكَانَ السَّائِلُ غَيْرِي أَنْبَأَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَقِيلٍ عَنْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ طَلْحَةَ عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ طَلْحَةَ عَنْ أُمِّ حَبِيبَةَ بِنْتِ جَحْشٍ قَالَتْ

كُنْتُ أُسْتَحَاضُ حَيْضَةً كَثِيرَةً طَوِيلَةً قَالَتْ فَجِئْتُ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ ﷺ أَسْتَفْتِيهِ وَأُخْبِرُهُ قَالَتْ فَوَجَدْتُهُ عِنْدَ أُخْتِي زَيْنَبَ قَالَتْ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّ لِي إِلَيْكَ حَاجَةً قَالَ وَمَا هِيَ أَىْ هَنْتَاهْ قُلْتُ إِنِّي أُسْتَحَاضُ حَيْضَةً طَوِيلَةً كَبِيرَةً وَقَدْ مَنَعَتْنِي الصَّلاَةَ وَالصَّوْمَ فَمَا تَأْمُرُنِي فِيهَا قَالَ أَنْعَتُ لَكِ الْكُرْسُفَ فَإِنَّهُ يُذْهِبُ الدَّمَ قُلْتُ هُوَ أَكْثَرُ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Muḥammad b. Yaḥyá
  2. ʿAbd al-Razzāq Imlāʾ ʿAla Min Kitābih and Kān al-Sāʾil Ghayrī
  3. Ibn Jurayj
  4. ʿAbdullāh b. Muḥammad b. ʿAqīl
  5. Ibrāhīm b. Muḥammad b. Ṭalḥah
  6. ʿUmar b. Ṭalḥah
  7. Um Ḥabībah Bint Jaḥsh

"I used to bleed continuously and heavily. I went to the Prophet asking him for advice and telling him (about my situation). I found him with my sister Zainab and said: 'o Messenger of Allah! I need to ask you something.' He said: 'What is it?' I said: 'I bleed continuously and heavily, and that is keeping me from prayer and fasting. What do you command me to do about it?' He said: 'I advise you to use a piece of cotton, for that will take away the blood.' I said: 'It is more than that.'" And he mentioned something like the Hadith of Sharik (below).

Notes

  • قُلْتُ هُوَ أَكْثَرُ. فَذَكَرَ نَحْوَ حَدِيثِ شَرِيكٍ

Grades by grader

Zubair Ali ZaiWeakfawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com
Aḥmad b. ḤanbalGoodin سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664Another source records this grader as “Good-Sound” (hadithunlocked).hadithunlocked
al-BukhariGoodin سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664hadithunlocked
al-TirmidhiGoodin سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664hadithunlocked

What scholars said about it

In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.

  • محمد بن إسحاق ابن منده

    لا يصح عندهم من وجه من الوجوه لأنه من رواية ابن عقيل وقد أجمعوا على ترك حديثه

    machine translationIt is not authentic in their view from any angle, because it is from the narration of Ibn ʿAqīl, and they have unanimously agreed to abandon his hadith.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • Dāraquṭnī

    يرويه عبد الله بن محمد بن عقيل واختلف عنه فرواه أبو أيوب الأفريقي عبد الله بن علي عن عبد الله بن محمد بن عقيل عن جابر ووهم فيه وخالفه عبيد الله بن عمرو وشريك وابن جريج وعمرو بن ثابت وزهير بن محمد وإبراهيم بن أبي يحيى رووه عن ابن عقيل عن إبراهيم بن محمد بن طلحة عن عمه عمران بن طلحة عن أمه حمنة بنت جحش وهو الصحيح

    machine translationʿAbdullāh b. Muḥammad b. ʿAqīl narrates it, and there is disagreement about what he transmitted. Abū Ayyūb al-Afrīqī, ʿAbdullāh b. ʿAlī, narrated it from ʿAbdullāh b. Muḥammad b. ʿAqīl from Jābir, and he erred in it. He was contradicted by ʿUbaydullāh b. ʿAmr, Sharīk, Ibn Jurayj, ʿAmr b. Thābit, Zuhayr b. Muḥammad and Ibrāhīm b. Abī Yaḥyā, who narrated it from Ibn ʿAqīl from Ibrāhīm b. Muḥammad b. Ṭalḥah from his uncle ʿImrān b. Ṭalḥah from his mother Ḥamnah bint Jaḥsh, and this is the correct version.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī

    وهنه ولم يقو إسناده

    machine translationHe considered it feeble and did not strengthen its chain.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • محمد بن إسحاق ابن منده

    لا يصح بوجه من الوجوه لأنهم أجمعوا على ترك حديث ابن عقيل

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
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  • Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī

    سألت أبي عنه فوهنه ولم يقو إسناده

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • Dāraquṭnī

    ضعفه

    machine translationHe considered him weak (ḍaʿīf).

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • محمد بن إسحاق ابن منده

    ضعفه

    machine translationHe considered him weak (ḍaʿīf).

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • Khaṭṭābī

    ترك بعض العلماء الاحتجاج به لأن راويه ابن عقيل ليس بذاك

    machine translationSome scholars abandoned relying on it as evidence, because its narrator, Ibn ʿAqīl, is not that reliable.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • Abū Bakr Aḥmad b. al-Ḥusayn al-Bayhaqī

    تفرد به ابن عقيل وهو مختلف في الاحتجاج به

    machine translationIbn ʿAqīl was alone in narrating it, and there is disagreement about relying on him as evidence.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • Ibn Ḥazm

    ورده بوجوه أحدها الانقطاع بين ابن جريج وابن عقيل وزعم أن ابن جريج لم يسمعه من ابن عقيل بينهما فيه النعمان بن راشد وذكره بسنده وضعف النعمان هذا ثانيها أنه رواه عن ابن عقيل شريك وزهير بن محمد وكلاهما ضعيف ثالثها أن عمر بن طلحة غير مخلوق ولا يعرف لطلحة ابن اسمه عمر

    machine translationHe rejected it on several grounds. The first is the break in the chain between Ibn Jurayj and Ibn ʿAqīl; he claimed that Ibn Jurayj did not hear it from Ibn ʿAqīl, and that between them in it is al-Nuʿmān b. Rāshid, and he mentioned it with his chain and declared this al-Nuʿmān weak. The second is that Sharīk and Zuhayr b. Muḥammad narrated it from Ibn ʿAqīl, and both are weak. The third is that ʿUmar b. Ṭalḥah was never created, and no son of Ṭalḥah named ʿUmar is known.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • al-Bukhari

    حديث حسن

    machine translationA good (ḥasan) hadith.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664
  • Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī

    ضعفه

    machine translationHe considered him weak (ḍaʿīf).

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 664

Other narrations of this report

Sunan Abi Dawud 287Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah 1000al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 1632al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 1633Sunan al-Daraqutni 834

Narrators

  1. Ḥamnah bt. Jaḥsh al-Asadīyah
    she was a Companion
    حَمْنَةُ بِنْتُ جَحْشٍ الْأَسَدِيَّةُلها صحبة
    عن
  2. ʿImrān b. Ṭalḥah
    He saw (a Companion) (ruʾyah); al-ʿIjlī mentioned him among the trustworthy (thiqāt) Successors.d. between 81 and 90 AH
    عُمَرَ بْنِ طَلْحَةَله رؤية ذكره العجلي في ثقات التابعين
    عن
  3. Ibrāhīm b. Muḥammad b. Ṭalḥah
    trustworthy (thiqah)d. 110 AH, or 116 AH, or 120 AH
    إِبْرَاهِيمَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ طَلْحَةَثقة
    عن
  4. ʿAbdullāh b. Muḥammad b. ʿAqīl b. Abī Ṭālib
    Truthful (ṣadūq), with some laxity (layyin) in his hadith; it is said that his memory changed towards the end of his life.d. after 140 AH, or 142 AH, or 145 AH
    عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَقِيلٍصدوق في حديثه لين ، ويقال : تغير بآخره
    عن
  5. Ibn Jurayj
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a jurist (faqīh), excellent (fāḍil); he used to commit concealment (tadlīs) and to narrate with omission of the Companion (irsāl).d. 149 AH or 150 AH or 151 AH or 160 AH
    ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍثقة فقيه فاضل ، وكان يدلس ويرسل
    أخبرنا
  6. ʿAbd al-Razzāq
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a renowned author (muṣannif); he went blind at the end of his life and his memory changed (taghayyara), and he had Shiite leanings (kāna yatashayyaʿ)d. 211 AH
    عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِثقة حافظ مصنف شهير ، عمي في آخر عمره فتغير ، وكان يتشيع
    حدثنا أملاه علينا من كتابه
  7. Muḥammad b. Yaḥyá al-Dhuhlī
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), eminentd. Ibn Qāniʿ said: 252 AH, also said: 256 AH, ʿAbd Allāh b. Muḥammad b. Ziyād al-Naysābūrī said: 257 AH, al-Khaṭīb said: all these views are mistaken, Abū Ḥāmid b. al-Sharqī and others said: 258 AH, and this is correct
    مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَىثقة حافظ جليل
    حدثنا
  8. Ibn Mājah
    one of the imams, a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ)d. 273 AH, or: 275 AH
    ابْنُ مَاجَهْأحد الأئمة ، حافظ

Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com

Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.

Commentaries

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