Sunan Ibn Majah 193
Concerning what the Jahmiyyah denied (i.e., seeing Allah in the Hereafter, etc.)
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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي ثَوْرٍ الْهَمْدَانِيُّ عَنْ سِمَاكٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمِيرَةَ عَنِ الأَحْنَفِ بْنِ قَيْسٍ عَنِ الْعَبَّاسِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الْمُطَّلِبِ قَالَ
كُنْتُ بِالْبَطْحَاءِ فِي عِصَابَةٍ وَفِيهِمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ فَمَرَّتْ بِهِ سَحَابَةٌ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهَا فَقَالَ مَا تُسَمُّونَ هَذِهِ قَالُوا السَّحَابُ قَالَ وَالْمُزْنُ قَالُوا وَالْمُزْنُ قَالَ وَالْعَنَانُ قَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ قَالُوا وَالْعَنَانُ قَالَ كَمْ تَرَوْنَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ قَالُوا لاَ نَدْرِي قَالَ فَإِنَّ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَهَا إِمَّا وَاحِدًا أَوِ اثْنَيْنِ أَوْ ثَلاَثًا وَسَبْعِينَ سَنَةً وَالسَّمَاءُ فَوْقَهَا كَذَلِكَ حَتَّى عَدَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ ثُمَّ فَوْقَ السَّمَاءِ السَّابِعَةِ بَحْرٌ بَيْنَ أَعْلاَهُ وَأَسْفَلِهِ كَمَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ثُمَّ فَوْقَ ذَلِكَ ثَمَانِيَةُ أَوْعَالٍ بَيْنَ أَظْلاَفِهِنَّ وَرُكَبِهِنَّ كَمَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ثُمَّ عَلَى ظُهُورِهِنَّ الْعَرْشُ بَيْنَ أَعْلاَهُ وَأَسْفَلِهِ كَمَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ثُمَّ اللَّهُ فَوْقَ ذَلِكَ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. Yaḥyá
- Muḥammad b. al-Ṣabbāḥ
- al-Walīd b. Abū Thawr al-Hamdānī
- Simāk
- ʿAbdullāh b. ʿAmīrah
- al-Aḥnaf b. Qays
- al-ʿAbbās b. ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib
"I was in Batha with a group of people, among them whom was the Messenger of Allah. A cloud passed over him, and he looked at it and said: 'What do you call this?' They said: 'Sahab (a cloud).' He said: 'And Muzn (rain cloud).' They said: 'And Muzn.' He said: 'And 'Anan (clouds).' Abu Bakr said: "They said: 'And 'Anan.'" He said: 'How much (distance) do you think there is between you and the heavens?' They said: 'We do not know.' He said: 'Between you and it is seventy-one, or seventy-two, or seventy-three years, and there is a similar distance between it and the heaven above it (and so on)' until he counted seven heavens. 'Then above the seventh heaven there is a sea, between whose top and bottom is a distance like that between one heaven and another. Then above that there are eight (angels in the form of) mountain goats. The distance between their hooves and their knees is like the distance between one heaven and the next. Then on their backs is the Throne, and the distance between the top and the bottom of the Throne is like the distance between one heaven and another. Then Allah is above that, the Blessed and Exalted."
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | Weak | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Muhammad Fuad Abd al-Baqi | Daif | fawazahmed0 |
| Shuayb al-Arnaut | Daif | fawazahmed0 |
| al-Albani | Daif | fawazahmed0 |
What scholars said about it
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- Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr
لا أعلم في هذا الباب حديثا مرفوعا إلا حديث عبد الله بن عميرة وهو حديث مشهور بهذا الإسناد رواه عن سماك جماعة منهم أبو خالد الدالاني وعمر وابن أبي عمرو بن أبي قيس وشعيب بن أبي خالد وابن أبي المقدام وإبراهيم بن طهمان والوليد بن أبي ثور
machine translationI do not know of any raised (marfūʿ) ḥadīth on this topic except the ḥadīth of ʿAbdullāh b. ʿUmayrah, and it is a well-known (mashhūr) ḥadīth with this chain. A group narrated it from Simāk, among them Abū Khālid al-Dālānī, ʿUmar and Ibn Abī ʿAmr b. Abī Qays, Shuʿayb b. Abī Khālid, Ibn Abī al-Miqdām, Ibrāhīm b. Ṭahmān and al-Walīd b. Abī Thawr.
in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 199 - Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
فيه عن سماك اختلاف قال البخاري لا يعلم له سماع من الأحنف
machine translationThere is disagreement about it from Simāk. al-Bukhārī said: It is not known that he heard from al-Aḥnaf.
in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 199
Other narrations of this report
Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3298Musnad Ahmad 1771Musnad al-Bazzar 9564al-Mustadrak (al-Hakim) 3137al-Mustadrak (al-Hakim) 3428al-Mustadrak (al-Hakim) 3547
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 32 AH, or: 33 AH, or: 34 AHالعَبَّاس بن عَبْد المُطَّلِب عَمّ رَسُول اللهصحابيعن
- a mukhaḍram, trustworthy (thiqah)d. it is said: 67 AH, or: 68 AH, also said: 71 AH, also said: 72 AHالْأَحْنَفِ بْنِ قَيْسٍمخضرم ثقةعن
- acceptable (maqbūl)عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عَمِيرَةَمقبولعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq); his narrations from ʿIkrimah in particular are inconsistent (muḍṭarib); he changed (taghayyara) towards the end of his life, and at times he would accept prompting (yulaqqan).d. 123 AHسِمَاكٍصدوق , وروايته عن عكرمة خاصة مضطربة , وقد تغير بأخرة ، فكان ربما يلقنعن
- weak (ḍaʿīf)d. 172 AHالْوَلِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي ثَوْرٍ الْهَمْدَانِيُّضعيفحدثنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 227 AHمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِثقة حافظحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), eminentd. Ibn Qāniʿ said: 252 AH, also said: 256 AH, ʿAbd Allāh b. Muḥammad b. Ziyād al-Naysābūrī said: 257 AH, al-Khaṭīb said: all these views are mistaken, Abū Ḥāmid b. al-Sharqī and others said: 258 AH, and this is correctمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَىثقة حافظ جليلحدثنا
- one of the imams, a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ)d. 273 AH, or: 275 AHابْنُ مَاجَهْأحد الأئمة ، حافظ
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
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Commentaries
Hāshiyat al-Sindī on Abū Daʿūd
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