Musnad al-Bazzar 4197
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حَدَّثَنَا الْحُسَيْنُ بْنُ مَهْدِيٍّ، قَالَ: نَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، قَالَ: نَا مَعْمَرٌ، عَنْ يَحْيَى بْنِ أَبِي كَثِيرٍ، عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ ثَوْبَانَ ؓ قَالَ
بَيْنَمَا رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ يُشَيِّعُ جِنَازَةً إِذْ أَتَاهُ رَجُلٌ بِدَابَّةٍ لِيَرْكَبَهَا فَأَبَى، فَلَمَّا دُلِّيَتِ الْجِنَازَةُ أَتَاهُ رَجُلٌ آخَرُ بِدَابَّةٍ فَرَكِبَهَا، فَلَقِيَهُ الْأَوَّلُ فَقَالَ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ عَرَضْتُ عَلَيْكَ دَابَّتِي لِتَرْكَبَهَا فَأَبَيْتَ، وَعَرَضَ عَلَيْكَ فُلَانٌ دَابَّتَهُ فَرَكِبْتَهَا، قَالَ: إِنَّكَ عَرَضْتَ عَلَيَّ دَابَّتَكَ وَالْمَلَائِكَةُ تُشَيِّعُ الْجِنَازَةَ وَلَمْ أَكُنْ لِأَرْكَبَ وَالْمَلَائِكَةُ تَمْشِي، أَمَا إِنَّكَ لَوْ عَرَضْتَهَا بَعْدَ مَا دُفِنَتْ لَرَكِبْتُهَا
Translation
Chain of narrators
- al-Ḥusayn b. Mahdī
- ʿAbd al-Razzāq
- Maʿmar
- Yaḥyá b. Abū Kathīr
- Abū Salamah b. ʿAbd al-Raḥman
- Thawbān
✧ While the Messenger of Allah ﷺ was escorting a funeral, a man came to him with a mount for him to ride, but he refused. When the funeral was lowered, another man came to him with a mount, and he rode it. Then the first man met him and said: "O Messenger of Allah, I offered you my mount to ride but you refused, and so-and-so offered you his mount and you rode it." He said: "You offered me your mount while the angels were escorting the funeral, and I was not going to ride while the angels were walking. If you had offered it after it was buried, I would have ridden it."
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- Bazzār
وقد رواه عامر بن يساف عن يحيى بن أبي كثير مرسلا لم يقل عن أبي سلمة ولا ثوبان ومعمر أثبت من عامر بن يساف
in مسند البزار, p. 4197 - Bazzār
حسن الإسناد
machine translationThe chain of transmission is good (ḥasan).
in مسند البزار, p. 4197 - إبراهيم بن المنذر الحزامي
الصحيح وقفه على ثوبان
machine translationThe correct view is that it is stopped (mawqūf) at Thawbān.
in مسند البزار, p. 4197 - Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
هذا حديث خطأ ليس الحديث من حديث أبي سلمة بن عبد الرحمن وأبو سلمة عن ثوبان لا يجيء إنما هذا حديث يرويه أبو سلام عن ثوبان ويحيى بن أبي كثير يروي عن زيد بن سلام عن جده أبي سلام فيحتمل أن يكون أخذه عن زيد عن أبي سلام عن ثوبان عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وأسقط زيدا من الوسط أو لم يحفظ عنه ولا أعلم روى أبو سلمة عن ثوبان إلا حديثا يرويه أبو سعد البقال وهو حديث منكر عن أبي سلمة عن ثوبان عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال من شهد أن لا إله إلا الله قال أبي وأبو سعد البقال لا أعلم سمع من أبي سلمة ولا من أبي سلام وإذا رأيت الرجل لا يروي عنه الثوري وأراه قال وشعبة وقد أدركاه فما ظنك به
machine translationThis hadith is an error. It is not a hadith of Abū Salamah b. ʿAbd al-Raḥmān, and Abū Salamah's narration from Thawbān does not occur. Rather, this is a hadith narrated by Abū Sallām from Thawbān. Yaḥyā b. Abī Kathīr narrates from Zayd b. Sallām, from his grandfather Abū Sallām. So it is possible that he took it from Zayd, from Abū Sallām, from Thawbān, from the Prophet ﷺ, and dropped Zayd from the middle, or that he did not memorize it from him. I do not know of Abū Salamah narrating from Thawbān anything except a hadith narrated by Abū Saʿd al-Baqqāl, and it is a rejected (munkar) hadith, from Abū Salamah, from Thawbān, from the Prophet ﷺ, who said: "Whoever bears witness that there is no god but God..." My father said: As for Abū Saʿd al-Baqqāl, I do not know that he heard from Abū Salamah or from Abū Sallām. And when you see a man from whom al-Thawrī does not narrate, and I think he said, and Shuʿbah, though they both lived in his time, then what do you think of him?
in مسند البزار, p. 4197
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 54 AH, also said: 44 AH, also said 45 AHثَوْبَانُ بْنُ بُجْدُدَ مَوْلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِصحابيعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), a prolific narrator (mukthir)d. 94 AH, or 104 AHأَبِي سَلَمَةَ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِثقة ، مكثرعن
- trustworthy and reliable (thiqah thabt), but he practiced tadlīs and irsāld. 129 AH or 130 AH or 132 AHيَحْيَى بْنِ أَبِي كَثِيرٍثقة ثبت ، لكنه يدلس ويرسلعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), excellent, except that there is some weakness in his narration from Thābit, al-Aʿmash, ʿĀṣim b. Abī al-Najūd and Hishām b. ʿUrwah, and likewise in what he narrated in Basrad. at the beginning of 150 AH, or: 152 AH, or: 153 AH, or: 154 AH, 155 AHمَعْمَرٌثقة ثبت فاضل ، إلا أن في روايته عن ثابت والأعمش وعاصم بن أبي النجود ، وهشام بن عروة شيئا ، وكذا فيما حدث به بالبصرةنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a renowned author (muṣannif); he went blind at the end of his life and his memory changed (taghayyara), and he had Shiite leanings (kāna yatashayyaʿ)d. 211 AHعَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِثقة حافظ مصنف شهير ، عمي في آخر عمره فتغير ، وكان يتشيعنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 247 AHالْحُسَيْنُ بْنُ مَهْدِيٍّصدوقحدثنا
- d. 291 AH or 292 AH or 294 AHالبزار
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