al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 11789
✧ The Imam Is Liable and the Teacher Pays Compensation for One Who Dies Due to the Imam's Discretionary Punishment and the Teacher's Discipline
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( أَخْبَرَنَا ) أَبُو عَلِيٍّ الرُّوذْبَارِيُّ، ثَنَا أَبُو مُحَمَّدِ بْنُ شَوْذَبٍ الْوَاسِطِيُّ بِهَا، ثَنَا شُعَيْبُ بْنُ أَيُّوبَ، ثَنَا مُعَاوِيَةُ بْنُ هِشَامٍ الْقَصَّارُ، وَقَبِيصَةُ بْنُ عُقْبَةَ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ، عَنْ أَبِي حَصِينٍ، عَنْ عُمَيْرِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ ؓ قَالَ:
مَا مِنْ صَاحِبِ حَدٍّ أُقِيمَ عَلَيْهِ أَجِدُ فِي نَفْسِي عَلَيْهِ شَيْءٌ إِلَّا صَاحِبَ الْخَمْرِ، لَوْ مَاتَ لَوَدَيْتُهُ؛ لِأَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ لَمْ يَسُنَّهُ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Abū ʿAlī al-Rūdhbārī
- Abū Muḥammad b. Shawdhab al-Wāsiṭī Bihā
- Shuʿayb b. Ayyūb
- Muʿāwiyah b. Hishām al-Qaṣṣār and Qabīṣah b. ʿUqbah
- Sufyān
- Abū Ḥaṣīn
- ʿUmayr b. Saʿīd
- ʿAlī
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There is no one upon whom a prescribed punishment (ḥadd) was carried out about whom I feel anything in myself, except the one punished for wine. If he were to die, I would pay his blood money; because the Messenger of Allah ﷺ did not prescribe a fixed punishment for it.
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- Dāraquṭnī
اختلف فيه و الصحيح عن مطرف عن عمير بن سعيد
machine translationThere is disagreement about it, and the sound (ṣaḥīḥ) version is from Muṭarrif, from ʿUmayr b. Saʿīd.
in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 11789 - Ibn Ḥazm
إنه مجهول وإنه روى حديثين عن علي ما نعلم له غيرهما أحدهما في ذكر شارب الخمر يعني الذي أخرجه البخاري والآخر في قصة هاروت وماروت قال وكلاهما كذب
machine translationHe is unknown (majhūl), and he narrated two hadiths from ʿAlī; we know of no others from him. One of them is about the one who drinks wine, meaning the one that al-Bukhārī recorded, and the other is about the story of Hārūt and Mārūt. He said: both of them are false (kadhib).
in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 11789
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- One of the ten (promised Paradise)d. 40 AHعَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍأحد العشرةعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. Ibn Ḥibbān said: the year 107 AH, Muḥammad b. Saʿd said: the year 115 AHعُمَيْرِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍثقةعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), a follower of the Sunnah (sunnī), and he sometimes practiced concealment (tadlīs)d. 127 AH, or 128 AH, or 129 AH, or 130 AHأَبِي حَصِينٍثقة ثبت سني ، وربما دلسعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), devout (ʿābid), an imam and authority (ḥujjah)d. 159 AH or 160 AH or 161 AH or 162 AHسُفْيَانَثقة حافظ , فقيه عابد ، إمام حجةعن
- truthful (ṣadūq), sometimes contradicts othersd. 213 AH, or: 215 AHوَقَبِيصَةُ بْنُ عُقْبَةَصدوق ربما خالفحدثنا
- truthful (ṣadūq), practises concealment (tadlīs)d. 261 AHشُعَيْبُ بْنُ أَيُّوبَصدوق يدلسحدثنا
- أَبُو مُحَمَّدِ بْنُ شَوْذَبٍ الْوَاسِطِيُّحدثنا
- d. 403 AHأَبُو عَلِيٍّ الرُّوذْبَارِيُّأخبرنا
- d. 458 AHالبيهقي
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
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