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Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1399

What Has Been Related About A Man Who Kills His Son: Is He To Suffer Requital For Him Or Not ?

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حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ حُجْرٍ حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ عَيَّاشٍ حَدَّثَنَا الْمُثَنَّى بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ جَدِّهِ عَنْ سُرَاقَةَ بْنِ مَالِكِ بْنِ جُعْشُمٍ قَالَ

حَضَرْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ يُقِيدُ الأَبَ مِنِ ابْنِهِ وَلاَ يُقِيدُ الاِبْنَ مِنْ أَبِيهِ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. ʿAlī b. Ḥujr
  2. Ismāʿīl b. ʿAyyāsh
  3. al-Muthanná b. al-Ṣabbāḥ
  4. ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb
  5. his father
  6. his father
  7. Surāqah b. Mālik b. Juʿshum

"The Messenger of Allah ﷺ judged that the son is to suffer retaliation for [killing] his father, but the father is not to suffer retaliation for [killing] his son."

Notes

  • قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ لاَ نَعْرِفُهُ مِنْ حَدِيثِ سُرَاقَةَ إِلاَّ مِنْ هَذَا الْوَجْهِ وَلَيْسَ إِسْنَادُهُ بِصَحِيحٍ رَوَاهُ إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ عَيَّاشٍ عَنِ الْمُثَنَّى بْنِ الصَّبَّاحِ وَالْمُثَنَّى بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ يُضَعَّفُ فِي الْحَدِيثِ وَقَدْ رَوَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ أَبُو خَالِدٍ الأَحْمَرُ عَنِ الْحَجَّاجِ بْنِ أَرْطَاةَ عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ جَدِّهِ عَنْ عُمَرَ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ وَقَدْ رُوِيَ هَذَا الْحَدِيثُ عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ مُرْسَلاً وَهَذَا حَدِيثٌ فِيهِ اضْطِرَابٌ وَالْعَمَلُ عَلَى هَذَا عِنْدَ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ أَنَّ الأَبَ إِذَا قَتَلَ ابْنَهُ لاَ يُقْتَلُ بِهِ وَإِذَا قَذَفَ ابْنَهُ لاَ يُحَدُّ

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Zubair Ali ZaiWeakfawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com
Ahmad Muhammad ShakirDaiffawazahmed0
Bashar Awad MaaroufDaiffawazahmed0
al-AlbaniDaiffawazahmed0
al-TirmidhiWeakin سنن الترمذي, p. 1399hadithunlocked

What scholars said about it

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  • al-Tirmidhi

    هذا حديث لا نعرفه من حديث سراقة إلا من هذا الوجه وليس إسناده بصحيح

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 1473
  • Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī

    إسناده ضعيف وفيه اضطراب

    machine translationIts chain is weak (ḍaʿīf), and it contains inconsistency (iḍṭirāb).

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 1473
  • al-Tirmidhi

    ليس إسناده بصحيح

    machine translationIts chain of transmission (isnād) is not sound (ṣaḥīḥ).

    in سنن الترمذي, p. 1399

Same hadith, other wordings

  • Misykatul Mashabih 3472وَعَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ جدِّهِ عَن سُراقةَ بنِ مالكٍ قَالَ: حَضَرْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يُقِيدُ الْأَبَ مِنِ ابْنِهِ وَلَا يُقِيدُ الِابْنَ من أَبِيه. رَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيّ (لم تتمّ دراس

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. well-known Companion, embraced Islam at the Conquest of Meccad. 24 AH or after it
    سُرَاقَةُ بْنُ مَالِكٍ الْمُدْلِجِيُّصحابي مشهور ، من مسلمة الفتح
    عن
  2. One of the early Companions (sābiqūn), among those who narrated abundantly, and one of the jurist ʿAbdullāhs (al-ʿabādilah)d. 63 AH, or 65 AH, or 68 AH, or 69 AH; also said 67 AH, also said 73 AH, also said 77 AH
    جَدِّهِأحد السابقين ، المكثرين من الصحابة ، وأحد العبادلة الفقهاء
    عن
  3. Truthful (ṣadūq); his hearing from his grandfather is established (thābit)d. between 81 and 90 AH
    أَبِيهِصدوق ، ثبت سماعه من جده
    عن
  4. truthful (ṣadūq)d. 118 AH
    عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍصدوق
    عن
  5. weak (ḍaʿīf), his memory became confused (ikhtilāṭ) at the end of his lifed. 140 AH, or 147 AH, or 149 AH
    الْمُثَنَّى بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِضعيف ، اختلط بآخره
    حدثنا
  6. truthful (ṣadūq) in his narration from the people of his own land, but confused (mukhaliṭ) in his narration from othersd. 181 AH, or 182 AH
    إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ عَيَّاشٍصدوق في روايته عن أهل بلده ، مخلط في غيرهم
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  7. trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 244 AH, also said: 241 AH, also said: 243 AH
    عَلِيُّ بْنُ حُجْرٍثقة حافظ
    حدثنا
  8. trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AH
    التِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ

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Commentaries

Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)

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