Musnad al-Tayalisi 33

Translation

✧ When ʿUmar was stabbed, Ṣuhayb said: O his brother, O his brother. ʿUmar said to him: Stop, O my brother; stop, O Ṣuhayb. Have you not heard the Messenger of God ﷺ say: The deceased is punished in his grave by the weeping of his family?

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• Khaṭṭābī

  الخبران معا صحيحان ولا منافاة بينهما اي خبر عمر وابنه وخبر عائشة

  machine translationBoth reports are authentic (ṣaḥīḥ), and there is no contradiction between them, that is, the report of ʿUmar and his son and the report of ʿĀʾishah. Report a problem

  in مسند الطيالسي, p. 33
• Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

  فهذا عمر قد روى في بكاء الحي على الميت مثل رواية ابنه سواء وهذا حديث ثابت عن عمر صحيح الإسناد لا مقال فيه لأحد وقد رواه عن ابن مليكة جماعة منهم أيوب السختياني وغيره

  machine translationHere is ʿUmar, who narrated concerning the weeping of the living over the dead the same as the narration of his son, exactly. This is a firmly established hadith from ʿUmar, with a sound (ṣaḥīḥ) chain of narration about which no one has any criticism. A group narrated it from Ibn Abī Mulaykah, among them Ayyūb al-Sakhtiyānī and others. Report a problem

  in مسند الطيالسي, p. 33

Other narrations of this report

Sunan an-Nasa'i 1856Musnad Ahmad 19918Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah 12241al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 20048al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Nasa'i) 1995al-Matalib al-'Aliyah 1051

Narrators

1. 1
   ʿUmar b. al-Khaṭṭāb

   Commander of the Faithful (amīr al-muʾminīn), well-known, of abundant virtues (jamm al-manāqib)d. 23 AH, also said: 24 AH
   عُمَر بْن الْخَطَّابأمير المؤمنين مشهور جم المناقب
   قال له
2. 2
   Nufayʿ b. Rāfiʿ al-Ṣāʾigh

   trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. between 91 and 100 AH
   أَبِي رَافِعٍثقة ثبت
   عن
3. 3
   Thābit al-Bunānī

   trustworthy (thiqah), devout (ʿābid)d. 122 AH, or 123 AH, or 126 AH, or 127 AH, or 129 AH
   ثَابِتٍ الْبُنَانِيِّثقة عابد
   عن
4. 4
   Jaʿfar b. Sulaymān

   Truthful (ṣadūq) and ascetic (zāhid), but he leaned towards Shiʿism.d. 178 AH
   جَعْفَرُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَصدوق زاهد ، لكنه كان يتشيع
   حدثنا
5. 5
   Abū Dāwūd

   trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), who erred in some hadithsd. 203 AH, or 204 AH
   أَبُو دَاوُدَثقة حافظ , غلط في أحاديث

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