Musnad al-Tayalisi 1294
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حَدَّثَنَا يُونُسُ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو دَاوُدَ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ مُرَّةَ، سَمِعَ سَالِمَ بْنَ أَبِي الْجَعْدِ يُحَدِّثُ عَنِ ابْنِ لَبِيدٍ - رَجُلٍ مِنَ الْأَنْصَارِ - قَالَ: قَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ:
" هَذَا أَوَانُ ذَهَابِ الْعِلْمِ "، أَوْ: " هَذَا أَوَانُ انْقِطَاعِ الْعِلْمِ، فَقَالَ ابْنُ لَبِيدٍ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، كَيْفَ وَفِينَا كِتَابُ اللهِ نُعَلِّمُهُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَيُعَلِّمُهُ أَبْنَاؤُنَا أَبْنَاءَهُمْ ؟ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ: ثَكِلَتْكَ أُمُّكَ يَا ابْنَ لَبِيدٍ، إِنْ كُنْتُ لَأَحْسَبُكَ أَعْقَلَ رَجُلٍ بِالْمَدِينَةِ، أَوَلَيْسَ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى قَدْ أُوتُوا التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنْجِيلَ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَنْتَفِعُوا مِنْ ذَلِكَ بِشَيْءٍ ؟
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Chain of narrators
- Yūnus
- Abū Dāwud
- Shuʿbah
- ʿAmr b. Murrah
- Sālim b. Abū al-Jaʿd Yuḥaddith
- Ibn Labīd a man Min al-Anṣār
- al-Nabī ﷺ
✧ This is the time of the departure of knowledge, or: This is the time of the severing of knowledge. Ibn Labid said: O Messenger of God, how [can that be] when the Book of God is among us, we teach it to our children and our children teach it to their children? The Prophet ﷺ said: May your mother be bereaved of you, O Ibn Labid! I certainly considered you the most intelligent man in Madinah. Have not the Jews and Christians been given the Torah and the Gospel, and yet they have not benefited from them in anything?
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- Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
سالم لم يلق زيادا
in مسند الطيالسي, p. 1294
Other narrations of this report
Musnad Ahmad 17920Sunan ad-Darimi 246al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 5297al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 5298al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 7932al-Mustadrak (al-Hakim) 339
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- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 41 AH, also said during the caliphate of Abū Bakr al-Ṣiddīq (may Allah be pleased with him)زِيَادُ بْنُ لَبِيدٍ الْبَيَاضِيُّصحابييحدث عن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), but he used to narrate with omission of the Companion (irsāl) frequentlyd. 99 AH, Muṭayyan said: 100 AH, also said: 101 AH. Abū Nuʿaym said: 97 AH or 98 AH, and Ibn Ḥibbān said likewise in al-Thiqātسَالِمَ بْنَ أَبِي الْجَعْدِثقة وكان يرسل كثيراسمع
- Trustworthy (thiqah), devout; he did not practice concealment (tadlīs), and he was accused of Irjāʾd. 118 AH, also said: before itعَمْرِو بْنِ مُرَّةَثقة عابد كان لا يدلس ورمي بالإرجاءعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), meticulous (mutqin)d. 160 AHشُعْبَةُثقة حافظ , متقنحدثنا
- trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), who erred in some hadithsd. 203 AH, or 204 AHأَبُو دَاوُدَثقة حافظ , غلط في أحاديث
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