Musnad Ahmad 17920
✧ Ziyad bin Libaid
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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ مُرَّةَ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ سَالِمَ بْنَ أَبِي الْجَعْدِ يُحَدِّثُ عَنِ ابْنِ لَبِيدٍ الْأَنْصَارِيِّ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ
هَذَا أَوَانُ ذَهَابِ الْعِلْمِ » -قَالَ شُعْبَةُ: أَوْ قَالَ: « هَذَا أَوَانُ انْقِطَاعِ الْعِلْمِ » - فَقُلْتُ: وَكَيْفَ، وَفِينَا كِتَابُ اللهِ نُعَلِّمُهُ أَبْنَاءَنَا، وَيُعَلِّمُهُ أَبْنَاؤُنَا أَبْنَاءَهُمْ؟! قَالَ: ثَكِلَتْكَ أُمُّكَ ابْنَ لَبِيدٍ، مَا كُنْتُ أَحْسَبُكَ إِلَّا مِنْ أَعْقَلِ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ، أَلَيْسَ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى فِيهِمْ كِتَابُ اللهِ تَعَالَى؟. -قَالَ شُعْبَةُ: أَوْ قَالَ: « أَلَيْسَ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى فِيهِمُ التَّوْرَاةُ وَالْإِنْجِيلُ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَنْتَفِعُوا مِنْهُ بِشَيْءٍ؟- أَوْ قَالَ: « أَلَيْسَ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْ أَهْلُ الْكِتَابِ- شُعْبَةُ يَقُولُ: ذَلِكَ فِيهِمْ كِتَابُ اللهِ [عَزَّ وَجَلَّ] ».
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Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. Jaʿfar
- Shuʿbah
- ʿAmr b. Murrah
- Sālim b. Abū al-Jaʿd Yuḥaddith
- Ibn Labīd al-Anṣārī
- Rasūl Allāh ﷺ
✧ "This is the time of the departure of knowledge"—Shu'bah said: or he said: "This is the time of the severance of knowledge"—so I said: "How so, when the Book of God is among us, we teach it to our children, and our children will teach it to their children?" He said: "May your mother be bereaved of you, O Ibn Labid! I did not think you were anything but one of the most intelligent people of Madinah. Are not the Jews and Christians in possession of the Book of God Almighty?"—Shu'bah said: or he said: "Are not the Jews and Christians in possession of the Torah and the Gospel, yet they did not benefit from it at all?"—or he said: "Are not the Jews and Christians, or the People of the Book"—Shu'bah says: "that is, the Book of God [Mighty and Majestic] is among them."
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What scholars said about it
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- Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
سالم لم يلق زيادا
in مسند أحمد, p. 18136
Other narrations of this report
Sahih Muslim 240bSahih Muslim 240dSahih Muslim 242aJami' at-Tirmidhi 41Sunan Ibn Majah 453Sunan Ibn Majah 455
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 41 AH, also said during the caliphate of Abū Bakr al-Ṣiddīq (may Allah be pleased with him)زِيَادُ بْنُ لَبِيدٍ الْبَيَاضِيُّصحابييحدث عن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), but he used to narrate with omission of the Companion (irsāl) frequentlyd. 99 AH, Muṭayyan said: 100 AH, also said: 101 AH. Abū Nuʿaym said: 97 AH or 98 AH, and Ibn Ḥibbān said likewise in al-Thiqātسَالِمَ بْنَ أَبِي الْجَعْدِثقة وكان يرسل كثيراسمعت
- Trustworthy (thiqah), devout; he did not practice concealment (tadlīs), and he was accused of Irjāʾd. 118 AH, also said: before itعَمْرِو بْنِ مُرَّةَثقة عابد كان لا يدلس ورمي بالإرجاءعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), meticulous (mutqin)d. 160 AHشُعْبَةُثقة حافظ , متقنحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), his book was sound (ṣaḥīḥ al-kitāb), except that he had some heedlessness (ghaflah)d. 192 AH or 193 AH or 194 AHمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍثقة صحيح الكتاب إلا أن فيه غفلةحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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