Jami' al-Saghir / Jam' al-Jawami' (al-Suyuti) 2-2501b
"عَنْ عبد الرحمنِ بنِ أَبزِى قال: أُتى عمرُ بن الخطابِ فَقيلَ لَهُ: إِنَّ ناسا يَتَكَلَّمونَ في القدرِ، فَقَالَ: يَا أيُّها النَّاسُ! إِنَّما هَلَكَ مَنْ كَانَ قَبْلكم مِنَ الأُمَمِ في أَمْرِ القدر، والذى نَفسُ عُمَرَ بِيدهِ لَا أَسْمعُ بِرَجُلَيْنِ يَتَكلَّمانِ فِيه إِلَّا ضَرَبْتُ أَعْنَاقَهُمَا، فَأحْجَمَ النَّاسُ، فَمَا تَكلَّمَ أَحَدٌ حَتَّى ظَهرَ نابغةٌ بالشامِ زَمَنَ الحجاج".
Translation
Chain of narrators
- ʿBd al-Rḥmn b. Abziá
- Utá ʿMr b. al-Khṭāb Faqyl Lah
Machine translation, not reviewed
"On the authority of 'Abd al-Rahman ibn Abza, who said: 'Umar ibn al-Khattab was told: Some people are speaking about qadar. He said: O people! Those before you among the nations were destroyed only over the matter of qadar. By the One in whose hand is 'Umar's soul, I will not hear of two men speaking about it without I cut off their necks. So the people withdrew, and no one spoke until a rising figure appeared in Syria during the time of al-Hajjaj."
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Notes
خشيش في الاستقامة ()، واللالكائى، [كر] ابن عساكر في تاريخه
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