Musnad Ahmad 783
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حَدَّثَنَا هَاشِمُ حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانَ يَعْنِي ابْنَ الْمُغِيرَةِ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ زَيْدٍ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ الْحَارِثِ بْنِ نَوْفَلٍ الْهَاشِمِيُّ قَالَ
كَانَ أَبِي الْحَارِثُ عَلَى أَمْرٍ مِنْ أَمْرِ مَكَّةَ فِي زَمَنِ عُثْمَانَ، فَأَقْبَلَ عُثْمَانُ إِلَى مَكَّةَ، فَقَالَ عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ الْحَارِثِ: فَاسْتَقْبَلْتُ عُثْمَانَ بِالنُّزُلِ بِقُدَيْدٍ، فَاصْطَادَ أَهْلُ الْمَاءِ حَجَلًا، فَطَبَخْنَاهُ بِمَاءٍ وَمِلْحٍ، فَجَعَلْنَاهُ عُرَاقًا لِلثَّرِيدِ، فَقَدَّمْنَاهُ إِلَى عُثْمَانَ وَأَصْحَابِهِ، فَأَمْسَكُوا، فَقَالَ عُثْمَانُ: صَيْدٌ لَمْ أَصْطَدْهُ، وَلَمْ نَأْمُرْ بِصَيْدِهِ، اصْطَادَهُ قَوْمٌ حِلٌّ، فَأَطْعَمُونَاهُ، فَمَا بَأْسٌ ؟ فَقَالَ عُثْمَانُ: مَنْ يَقُولُ فِي هَذَا ؟ فَقَالُوا: عَلِيٌّ، فَبَعَثَ إِلَى عَلِيٍّ، فَجَاءَ، قَالَ عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ الْحَارِثِ: فَكَأَنِّي أَنْظُرُ إِلَى عَلِيٍّ حِينَ جَاءَ وَهُوَ يَحُتُّ الْخَبَطَ عَنْ كَفَّيْهِ، فَقَالَ لَهُ عُثْمَانُ: صَيْدٌ لَمْ نَصْطَدْهُ، وَلَمْ نَأْمُرْ بِصَيْدِهِ، اصْطَادَهُ قَوْمٌ حِلٌّ، فَأَطْعَمُونَاهُ، فَمَا بَأْسٌ ؟ قَالَ: فَغَضِبَ عَلِيٌّ، وَقَالَ: أَنْشُدُ اللهَ رَجُلًا شَهِدَ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ حِينَ أُتِيَ بِقَائِمَةِ حِمَارِ وَحْشٍ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ: إِنَّا قَوْمٌ حُرُمٌ، فَأَطْعِمُوهُ أَهْلَ الْحِلِّ، قَالَ: فَشَهِدَ اثْنَا عَشَرَ رَجُلًا مِنْ أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ، ثُمَّ قَالَ عَلِيٌّ: أَنْشُدُ اللهَ رَجُلًا شَهِدَ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ حِينَ أُتِيَ بِبَيْضِ النَّعَامِ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ: إِنَّا قَوْمٌ حُرُمٌ، أَطْعِمُوهُ أَهْلَ الْحِلِّ، قَالَ: فَشَهِدَ دُونَهُمْ مِنَ الْعِدَّةِ مِنَ الِاثْنَيْ عَشَرَ قَالَ: فَثَنَى عُثْمَانُ وَرِكَهُ عَنِ الطَّعَامِ، فَدَخَلَ رَحْلَهُ، وَأَكَلَ ذَلِكَ الطَّعَامَ أَهْلُ الْمَاءِ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Hāshim
- Sulaymān / Ibn al-Mughīrah
- ʿAlī b. Zayd
- ʿAbdullāh b. al-Ḥārith b. Nawfal al-Hāshimī
✧ My father al-Harith was in charge of a matter of the affairs of Makkah during the time of Uthman. Uthman came to Makkah. Abdullah b. al-Harith said: I met Uthman with hospitality at Qudayd. The people of the water hunted partridges, and we cooked them with water and salt and made them a meat broth for the tharid. We served them to Uthman and his companions, but they refrained. Uthman said: It is game we did not hunt, and we did not command its hunting. A people who are not in a state of ihram hunted it and fed it to us, so what is the harm? Uthman said: Who can give an opinion on this? They said: Ali. So he sent for Ali, and he came. Abdullah b. al-Harith said: It is as if I am looking at Ali when he came, brushing leaves from his palms. Uthman said to him: It is game we did not hunt, and we did not command its hunting. A people who are not in a state of ihram hunted it and fed it to us, so what is the harm? He said: Ali became angry and said: I adjure by Allah a man who witnessed the Messenger of Allah ﷺ when a leg of a wild donkey was brought to him, and the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: We are people in a state of ihram, so feed it to those who are not in ihram. He said: Twelve men from the Companions of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ bore witness. Then Ali said: I adjure by Allah a man who witnessed the Messenger of Allah ﷺ when ostrich eggs were brought to him, and the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: We are people in a state of ihram, feed them to those who are not in ihram. He said: Fewer than them, from among the twelve, bore witness. He said: Uthman turned his side away from the food and entered his camp, and the people of the water ate that food.
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | Good Due to External Factors | hadithunlocked |
|---|---|---|
| Darussalam | Hasan because of corroborating evidence; this is a Da'if isnad | sunnah.com |
What scholars said about it
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- Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī
فيه علي بن زيد وفيه كلام كثير وقد وثق
machine translationIn it is ʿAlī b. Zayd, about whom there is much criticism, though he has also been declared trustworthy.
in مسند أحمد, p. 787 - Dāraquṭnī
يرويه علي بن زيد بن جدعان عن عبد الله بن الحارث بن نوفل عن علي مرفوعا إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ورواه حميد الطويل عن إسحاق بن عبد الله بن الحارث عن أبيه عن علي مرفوعا قال ذلك سليمان بن كثير عن حميد وتابعه يحيى بن أيوب المصري عن حميد وقال عبيد الله بن تمام عن حميد عن عبد الله بن الحارث عن أبيه عن علي ورفعه أيضا ورواه يزيد بن أبي زياد عن عبد الله بن الحارث عن أبيه عن علي ولم يرفعه ورواه عبد الكريم عن عبد الله بن الحارث عن ابن عباس عن علي عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم والأشبه بالصواب قول من قال لم يقل شيئا
machine translationʿAlī b. Zayd b. Judʿān narrates it from ʿAbdullāh b. al-Ḥārith b. Nawfal, from ʿAlī, raised (marfūʿ) to the Prophet ﷺ. Ḥumayd al-Ṭawīl narrated it from Isḥāq b. ʿAbdillāh b. al-Ḥārith, from his father, from ʿAlī, raised (marfūʿ). Sulaymān b. Kathīr said that from Ḥumayd, and Yaḥyā b. Ayyūb al-Miṣrī corroborated him from Ḥumayd. ʿUbaydullāh b. Tammām said, from Ḥumayd, from ʿAbdullāh b. al-Ḥārith, from his father, from ʿAlī, and he also raised it. Yazīd b. Abī Ziyād narrated it from ʿAbdullāh b. al-Ḥārith, from his father, from ʿAlī, and did not raise it. ʿAbd al-Karīm narrated it from ʿAbdullāh b. al-Ḥārith, from Ibn ʿAbbās, from ʿAlī, from the Prophet ﷺ. The closest to correct is the statement of the one who said that he did not say anything.
in مسند أحمد, p. 787
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- One of the ten (promised Paradise)d. 40 AHعَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍأحد العشرةقال
- Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr said: They are unanimously agreed upon his trustworthiness (thiqah).d. 62 AH, or 79 AH, or 83 AH, or 84 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ الْحَارِثِ بْنِ نَوْفَلٍ الْهَاشِمِيُّقال ابن عبد البر : أجمعوا على ثقتهحدثنا
- weak (ḍaʿīf)d. 127 AH, or 129 AH, or 131 AHعَلِيِّ بْنِ زَيْدٍضعيفعن
- trustworthy, trustworthy (thiqah thiqah) — said by Yaḥyā b. Maʿīnd. 165 AHسُلَيْمَانُ - يَعْنِي : ابْنَ الْمُغِيرَةِ -ثقة ثقة ـ قاله يحيى بن معينحدثنا
- trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 205 AH, or: 207 AHهَاشِمٌثقة ثبتحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
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