Musnad Ahmad 3681
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حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ عَنْ عَاصِمِ بْنِ كُلَيْبٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ الْأَسْوَدِ عَنْ عَلْقَمَةَ قَالَ قَالَ ابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ
أَلَا أُصَلِّي لَكُمْ صَلَاةَ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ ؟ قَالَ: فَصَلَّى فَلَمْ يَرْفَعْ يَدَيْهِ إِلَّا مَرَّةً.
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Wakīʿ
- Sufyān
- ʿĀṣim b. Kulayb
- ʿAbd al-Raḥman b. al-Aswad
- ʿAlqamah
- Ibn Masʿūd
Abdullah bin Mas'ud said: "Shall I not demonstrate the Salat of Messenger of Allah to you?" Then he offered Salat and he did not raise his hands except while saying the first Takbir." (Using translation from Tirmidhī 257)
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What scholars said about it
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- Shafiʿī
لم يثبت
machine translationIt is not established (lam yathbut).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
هذا خطأ يقال وهم فيه الثوري وروى هذا الحديث عن عاصم جماعة فقالوا كلهم إن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم افتتح فرفع يديه ثم ركع فطبق ولم يقل أحد ما روى الثوري
machine translationThis is a mistake. It is said that al-Thawrī erred in it. A group narrated this hadith from ʿĀṣim, and all of them said that the Prophet ﷺ began the prayer, raised his hands, then bowed and placed his hands together between his knees (ṭabbaqa), and none of them said what al-Thawrī narrated.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Ibn al-Mubārak
لم يثبت
machine translationIt is not established (lam yathbut).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Abū ʿAbdullāh al-Ḥākim
أن عاصم بن كليب لم يخرج له حديث في الصحيح
machine translationThat no hadith of ʿĀṣim b. Kulayb was narrated in the Ṣaḥīḥ.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737
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- Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
أثبت عن ابن مسعود بإسناد موصول قال لا إنما هو إبراهيم عن عبد الله
machine translationIt is more firmly established from Ibn Masʿūd by a connected chain. He said: No, it is only Ibrāhīm from ʿAbdullāh.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Dāraquṭnī
يرويه عاصم بن كليب عن عبد الرحمن بن الأسود عن علقمة حدث به الثوري عنه ورواه أبو بكر النهشلي عن عاصم بن كليب عن عبد الرحمن بن الأسود عن أبيه وعلقمة عن عبد الله وكذلك رواه ابن إدريس عن عاصم بن كليب عن عبد الرحمن بن الأسود عن علقمة عن عبد الله وإسناده صحيح
machine translationʿĀṣim b. Kulayb narrates it from ʿAbd al-Raḥmān b. al-Aswad, from ʿAlqamah; al-Thawrī narrated it from him. Abū Bakr al-Nahshalī narrated it from ʿĀṣim b. Kulayb, from ʿAbd al-Raḥmān b. al-Aswad, from his father and ʿAlqamah, from ʿAbdullāh. Likewise Ibn Idrīs narrated it from ʿĀṣim b. Kulayb, from ʿAbd al-Raḥmān b. al-Aswad, from ʿAlqamah, from ʿAbdullāh, and its chain is authentic (ṣaḥīḥ).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Ibn al-Qaṭṭān
الذي عندي أنه صحيح وإنما النكر فيه على وكيع زيادة ثم لا يعود وقالوا إنه كان يقولها من قبل نفسه وتارة لم يقلها وتارة أتبعها الحديث كأنها من كلام ابن مسعود
machine translationIn my view it is authentic (ṣaḥīḥ). What is objectionable (munkar) in it, against Wakīʿ, is the addition "then he did not repeat." They said that he used to say it on his own account; at times he did not say it, and at times he attached it to the hadith as though it were the words of Ibn Masʿūd.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
قال أبي هذا خطأ يقال وهم فيه الثوري وروى هذا الحديث عن عاصم جماعة فقالوا كلهم إن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم افتتح فرفع يديه ثم ركع فطبق وجعلهما بين ركبتيه ولم يقل أحد ما رواه الثوري
machine translationMy father said: This is an error. It is said that al-Thawrī made a mistake in it. A group narrated this hadith from ʿĀṣim, and all of them said that the Prophet ﷺ began the prayer and raised his hands, then bowed, clasped his hands together and placed them between his knees. No one said what al-Thawrī narrated.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - محمد بن وضاح القرطبي
الأحاديث التي تروى عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في رفع اليدين ثم لا يعود ضعيفة كلها
machine translationThe hadiths narrated from the Prophet ﷺ about raising the hands and then not repeating it are all weak (ḍaʿīf).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Bazzār
إنه لا يثبت ولا يحتج بمثله
machine translationIt is not established, and the like of it is not taken as proof.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
هذا خطأ يقال وهم فيه الثوري فقد رواه جماعة عن عاصم وقالوا كلهم إن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم افتتح فرفع يديه ثم ركع فطبق وجعلهما بين ركبتيه ولم يقل أحد ما روى الثوري
machine translationThis is an error. It is said that al-Thawrī made a mistake in it, for a group narrated it from ʿĀṣim, and all of them said that the Prophet ﷺ began the prayer and raised his hands, then bowed, clasped his hands together and placed them between his knees. No one said what al-Thawrī narrated.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
هذه خطأ يقال وهو فيه الثوري فقد رواه جماعة عن عاصم ولم يقل أحد ما روى الثوري أي لفظة ثم لم يعد
machine translationThis is a mistake. It is said that al-Thawrī erred in it, for a group narrated it from ʿĀṣim and none of them said what al-Thawrī narrated, namely the phrase "then he did not repeat."
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Ibn Rajab
روي ذلك عن علي وابن مسعود مرفوعا وضعف المرفوع عامة أئمة الحديث قديما وحديثا
machine translationThat was narrated from ʿAlī and Ibn Masʿūd as a raised report (marfūʿ), and the raised version was declared weak (ḍaʿīf) by most of the imams of hadith, early and late.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - أبو علي الطوسي كردوش
حديث حسن
machine translationA good (ḥasan) hadith.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Abū ʿAbdullāh al-Ḥākim
إبراهيم عن عبد الله مرسلا هذا هو المحفوظ وإبراهيم لم ير ابن مسعود فالحديث منقطع ومحمد بن جابر تكلم فيه أئمة الحديث
machine translationIbrāhīm from ʿAbdullāh, as a mursal report; this is the preserved (maḥfūẓ) version. Ibrāhīm did not see Ibn Masʿūd, so the hadith is broken in its chain (munqaṭiʿ). Muḥammad b. Jābir was criticised by the imams of hadith.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - ʿAbd al-ʿAẓīm al-Mudhirī
أن عاصم بن كليب لم يخرج له حديث في الصحيح
machine translationThat no hadith of ʿĀṣim b. Kulayb was narrated in the Ṣaḥīḥ.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Bazzār
حديث لا يثبت ولا يحتج به
machine translationA ḥadīth that is not established and cannot be used as evidence.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Ibn al-Mubārak
حديث وكيع لا يصح والذي عندي أنه صحيح وإنما النكر فيه على وكيع زيادة ثم لا يعود وقالوا إنه كان يقولها من قبل نفسه وتارة لم يقلها وتارة أتبعها
machine translationThe hadith of Wakīʿ is not sound (ṣaḥīḥ), whereas in my view it is sound; what is objectionable (munkar) in it, attributed to Wakīʿ, is the addition "then he did not repeat it." They said that he used to say it of his own accord; at times he did not say it, and at times he added it.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Dāraquṭnī
إنه حديث صحيح إلا هذه اللفظة يقصد لفظة لم يعد
machine translationIt is a sound (ṣaḥīḥ) hadith except for this phrase, meaning the phrase "he did not repeat."
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737 - Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
هذا خطأ يقال وهم فيه الثوري فقد رواه جماعة عن عاصم ولم يقل أحد ما روى الثوري
machine translationThis is a mistake. It is said that al-Thawrī erred in it, for a group narrated it from ʿĀṣim and none of them said what al-Thawrī narrated.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3737
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- One of the earliest and foremost (al-sābiqūn al-awwalūn), and one of the leading scholars among the Companions; his virtues are manyd. 28 AH, or 32 AH, 33 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مَسْعُودٍمن السابقين الأولين ، ومن كبار العلماء من الصحابة ، مناقبه جمةقال
- Trustworthy (thiqah), firm (thabt), jurist, devout worshipperd. 61 AH, or 62 AH, or 65 AH, or 72 AH, or 73 AH, also said: 63 AHعَلْقَمَةَثقة ثبت فقيه عابدعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 98 AH, or: 99 AHعَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ الْأَسْوَدِثقةعن
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 137 AHعَاصِمِ بْنِ كُلَيْبٍصدوقعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), devout (ʿābid), an imam and authority (ḥujjah)d. 159 AH or 160 AH or 161 AH or 162 AHسُفْيَانُثقة حافظ , فقيه عابد ، إمام حجةحدثنا
- Trustworthy, a memorizer, devout (thiqah ḥāfiẓ ʿābid)d. 196 AH, or 197 AH, or 198 AHوَكِيعٌثقة حافظ عابدحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.