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Musnad Ahmad 23872

✧ My father is raising

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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ وَبَهْزٌ قَالَا حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ عَنِ الْحَكَمِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي رَافِعٍ عَنْ أَبِي رَافِعٍ

أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ بَعَثَ رَجُلًا مِنْ بَنِي مَخْزُومٍ عَلَى الصَّدَقَةِ، فَقَالَ لِأَبِي رَافِعٍ: اصْحَبْنِي كَيْمَا تُصِيبَ مِنْهَا، قَالَ: لَا حَتَّى آتِيَ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ فَأَسْأَلَهُ، فَانْطَلَقَ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ ﷺ فَسَأَلَهُ، فَقَالَ: الصَّدَقَةُ لَا تَحِلُّ لَنَا، وَإِنَّ مَوْلَى الْقَوْمِ مِنْ أَنْفُسِهِمْ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Muḥammad b. Jaʿfar and Bahz
  2. Shuʿbah
  3. al-Ḥakam
  4. Ibn Abū Rāfiʿ
  5. Abū Rāfiʿ

✧ The Messenger of Allah ﷺ sent a man from Banu Makhzum to collect sadaqah. He said to Abu Rafi': Accompany me so that you may get something from it. He said: No, not until I go to the Messenger of Allah ﷺ and ask him. So he went to the Prophet ﷺ and asked him. He said: Sadaqah is not lawful for us, and the mawla of a people is one of them.

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  • Dāraquṭnī

    يرويه الحكم واختلف عنه فرواه شعبة عن الحكم عن ابن أبي رافع عن أبيه وقال عمرو بن مرزوق عن شعبة مثله وكذلك قال أسامة عن شعبة وقال الحجاج بن أرطاة عن الحكم أن أبا رافع سأل النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم شيئا من الصدقة فقال لا تحل للنبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ولا لأحد من أهله ومولاهم فيكون مرسلا

    machine translationAl-Ḥakam narrates it, and there is disagreement about him. Shuʿbah narrated it from al-Ḥakam, from Ibn Abī Rāfiʿ, from his father. ʿAmr b. Marzūq said, from Shuʿbah, the same; and likewise Usāmah said, from Shuʿbah. But al-Ḥajjāj b. Arṭāh said, from al-Ḥakam, that Abū Rāfiʿ asked the Prophet ﷺ for something of the charity (ṣadaqah), and he said: "It is not lawful for the Prophet ﷺ, nor for any of his family, nor for their freed slaves." So it would be mursal (with the Companion omitted from the chain).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 24338
  • Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

    في هذا الحديث عندي نظر

    machine translationIn my view, there is something to be examined in this hadith.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 24338

Narrators

  1. Abū Rāfiʿ al-Qibṭī
    Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. A short time before ʿUthmān or after him, or during the caliphate of ʿAlī b. Abī Ṭālib
    أَبُو رَافِعٍ الْقِبْطِيُّصحابي
    عن
  2. ʿUbaydullāh b. Abī Rāfiʿ mawlá Rasūl Allāh
    trustworthy (thiqah)d. between 91 AH and 100 AH
    ابْنِ أَبِي رَافِعٍثقة
    عن
  3. al-Ḥakam b. ʿUtaybah al-Kindī
    trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a jurist (faqīh), except that he sometimes practised concealment (tadlīs)d. 113 AH, or 114 AH, or 115; also said 110 AH
    الْحَكَمِثقة ثبت فقيه ، إلا أنه ربما دلس
    عن
  4. Shuʿbah
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), meticulous (mutqin)d. 160 AH
    شُعْبَةُثقة حافظ , متقن
    حدثنا
  5. Bahz
    trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. Ibn Qāniʿ said: 197 AH, ʿUqbah b. Mukram al-ʿAmmī said, and ʿAbd Allāh b. Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal: before 198 AH, others said: after 200 AH
    وَبَهْزٌثقة ثبت
    حدثنا
  6. Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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