Musnad Ahmad 23751
✧ Jaber bin 'Atik
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حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ حَدَّثَنَا إِسْرَائِيلُ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنْ جَبْرِ بْنِ عَتِيكٍ عَنْ عَمِّهِ قَالَ
دَخَلْتُ مَعَ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ عَلَى مَيِّتٍ مِنَ الْأَنْصَارِ وَأَهْلُهُ يَبْكُونَ، فَقُلْتُ: أَتَبْكُونَ، وَهَذَا رَسُولُ اللهِ [ ﷺ ] ؟ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ: دَعْهُنَّ يَبْكِينَ مَا دَامَ عِنْدَهُنَّ، فَإِذَا وَجَبَ فَلَا يَبْكِينَ، فَقَالَ جَبْرٌ: فَحَدَّثْتُ بِهِ عُمَرَ بْنَ عَبْدِ الْعَزِيزِ فَقَالَ لِي: مَاذَا وَجَبَ ؟ قُلْتُ: إِذَا أُدْخِلَ قَبْرَهُ.
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Chain of narrators
- Abū Nuʿaym
- Isrāʾīl
- ʿAbdullāh b. ʿĪsá
- Jabr b. ʿAtīk
- his uncle
✧ I entered with the Messenger of Allah ﷺ upon a deceased man from the Ansar while his family were weeping. I said, 'Do you weep while this is the Messenger of Allah ﷺ?' The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, 'Leave them to weep as long as he is with them, but when he is placed in the grave, they should not weep.' Jabr said, 'I narrated this to Umar b. Abd al-Aziz, and he said to me, "What does 'placed' mean?" I said, "When he is put into his grave."'
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Other narrations of this report
Sunan Abi Dawud 3111Sunan an-Nasa'i 3194Muwatta' Malik 16-37
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)أَحَدُ الصَّحَابَةِصحابيعن
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 61 AH, also said: 71 AHجَبْرِ بْنِ عَتِيكٍصحابيعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), with some Shīʿismd. 130 AH, or 135 AHعَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عِيسَىثقة فيه تشيععن
- Trustworthy (thiqah); he was criticized without any valid proofd. Abū Nuʿaym said, and Qaʿnab b. al-Muḥarrar: 160 AH. Hārūn b. Ḥātim said, from Dubays: 161 AH. Khalīfah b. Khayyāṭ said, and Muḥammad b. Saʿd: 162 AH, Mughulṭāy said: 164 AHإِسْرَائِيلُثقة ، تُكلم فيه بلا حجةحدثنا
- trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 218 AH, 219 AHأَبُو نُعَيْمٍثقة ثبتحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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