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Musnad Ahmad 18911

✧ al-Masoor bin Makhrama al-Zuhri, and Marwan bin al-Hakam

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حَدَّثَنَا وَهْبُ بْنُ جَرِيرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، قَالَ: سَمِعْتُ النُّعْمَانَ يُحَدِّثُ عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ حُسَيْنٍ، عَنِ الْمِسْوَرِ بْنِ مَخْرَمَةَ

أَنَّ عَلِيًّا خَطَبَ ابْنَةَ أَبِي جَهْلٍ فَوَعَدَ بِالنِّكَاحِ، فَأَتَتْ فَاطِمَةُ النَّبِيَّ ﷺ فَقَالَتْ: إِنَّ قَوْمَكَ يَتَحَدَّثُونَ أَنَّكَ لَا تَغْضَبُ لِبَنَاتِكَ، وَإِنَّ عَلِيًّا قَدْ خَطَبَ ابْنَةَ أَبِي جَهْلٍ، فَقَامَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ فَحَمِدَ اللهَ وَأَثْنَى عَلَيْهِ، وَقَالَ: إِنَّمَا فَاطِمَةُ بَضْعَةٌ مِنِّي، وَإِنِّي أَكْرَهُ أَنْ تَفْتِنُوهَا، وَذَكَرَ أَبَا الْعَاصِ بْنَ الرَّبِيعِ فَأَكْثَرَ عَلَيْهِ الثَّنَاءَ، وَقَالَ: لَا يُجْمَعُ بَيْنَ ابْنَةِ نَبِيِّ اللهِ وَبِنْتِ عَدُوِّ اللهِ، فَرَفَضَ عَلِيٌّ ذَلِكَ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. And Hb b. Jarīr
  2. my father
  3. al-Nuʿmān Yuḥaddith
  4. al-Zuhrī
  5. ʿAlī b. Ḥusayn
  6. al-Miswar b. Makhramah

✧ Ali proposed to the daughter of Abu Jahl and promised marriage. Fatimah came to the Prophet ﷺ and said: "Your people are saying that you do not get angry for your daughters, and Ali has proposed to the daughter of Abu Jahl." The Prophet ﷺ stood up, praised Allah and extolled Him, and said: "Fatimah is a piece of me, and I dislike that she be harmed. And he mentioned Abu al-'As b. al-Rabi' and praised him much. And he said: 'The daughter of the Prophet of Allah and the daughter of the enemy of Allah will not be joined together.' So Ali abandoned that."

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    حديث علي بن الحسين أشبه

    machine translationThe hadith of ʿAlī b. al-Ḥusayn is more likely (to be correct).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 19147

Narrators

  1. He and his father were Companions (ṣuḥbah).d. 64 AH, or: 65 AH, also said: 70 AH; also said: 71 AH, also said: 72 AH, also said: 73 AH, also said: 74 AH
    المِسْوَر بن مَخْرَمَةله ولأبيه صحبة
    عن
  2. Trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), devout (ʿābid), a jurist (faqīh), excellent and well knownd. 72 AH, or 74 AH, or 92 AH, or 93 AH, or 94 AH, or 95 AH, or 99 AH, or 100 AH
    عَلِيِّ بْنِ حُسَيْنٍثقة ثبت عابد ، فقيه فاضل مشهور
    عن
  3. The jurist and memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), whose eminence, precision and reliability are agreed upond. Ḍamrah b. Rabīʿah and others said: 123 AH. The nephew of al-Zuhrī and others said: 124 AH. Ibn Yūnus and others said: 125 AH
    الزُّهْرِيِّالفقيه الحافظ ، متفق على جلالته وإتقانه وثبته
    يحدث عن
  4. truthful (ṣadūq), poor memory (sayyiʾ al-ḥifẓ)d. between 131 and 140 AH
    النُّعْمَانَصدوق سيئ الحفظ
    سمعت
  5. Trustworthy (thiqah), but there is weakness in his narrations from Qatādah, and he has errors (awhām) when he narrates from memoryd. 170 AH or 177 AH or 179 AH, also said: 167 AH
    أَبِيثقة ، لكن في حديثه عن قتادة ضعف ، وله أوهام إذا حدث من حفظه
    حدثنا
  6. trustworthy (thiqah)d. 206 AH, or 207 AH
    وَهْبُ بْنُ جَرِيرٍثقة
    حدثنا
  7. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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