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Musnad Ahmad 17919

✧ Ziyad bin Libaid

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حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ حَدَّثَنَا الْأَعْمَشُ عَنْ سَالِمِ بْنِ أَبِي الْجَعْدِ عَنْ زِيَادِ بْنِ لَبِيدٍ قَالَ

ذَكَرَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ شَيْئًا قَالَ: وَذَاكَ عِنْدَ أَوَانِ ذَهَابِ الْعِلْمِ » قَالَ: قُلْنَا: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، وَكَيْفَ يَذْهَبُ الْعِلْمُ وَنَحْنُ نَقْرَأُ الْقُرْآنَ، وَنُقْرِئُهُ أَبْنَاءَنَا، وَيُقْرِئُهُ أَبْنَاؤُنَا أَبْنَاءَهُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ؟ قَالَ: « ثَكِلَتْكَ أُمُّكَ يَا ابْنَ أُمِّ لَبِيدٍ، إِنْ كُنْتُ لَأَرَاكَ مِنْ أَفْقَهِ رَجُلٍ بِالْمَدِينَةِ، أَوَلَيْسَ هَذِهِ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى يَقْرَؤُونَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنْجِيلَ، فَلَا يَنْتَفِعُونَ مِمَّا فِيهِمَا بِشَيْءٍ ».

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Wakīʿ
  2. al-Aʿmash
  3. Sālim b. Abū al-Jaʿd
  4. Ziyād b. Labīd

✧ The Prophet ﷺ mentioned something, and said: "That is at the time of the departure of knowledge." We said: "O Messenger of God, how can knowledge depart while we recite the Quran and teach it to our children, and our children will teach it to their children until the Day of Resurrection?" He said: "May your mother be bereaved of you, O Ibn Umm Labid! I used to consider you one of the most understanding men in Madinah. Are not these Jews and Christians reciting the Torah and the Gospel, yet they do not benefit from anything in them?"

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  1. Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 41 AH, also said during the caliphate of Abū Bakr al-Ṣiddīq (may Allah be pleased with him)
    زِيَادُ بْنُ لَبِيدٍ الْبَيَاضِيُّصحابي
    عن
  2. Trustworthy (thiqah), but he used to narrate with omission of the Companion (irsāl) frequentlyd. 99 AH, Muṭayyan said: 100 AH, also said: 101 AH. Abū Nuʿaym said: 97 AH or 98 AH, and Ibn Ḥibbān said likewise in al-Thiqāt
    سَالِمِ بْنِ أَبِي الْجَعْدِثقة وكان يرسل كثيرا
    عن
  3. Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), knowledgeable in the recitations (qirāʾāt), scrupulous (wariʿ), but he practiced concealment (tadlīs)d. Abū ʿAwānah said, and ʿAbd Allāh b. Dāwūd: 147 AH. Wakīʿ said, and more than one: 148 AH. And al-Khaṭīb considered it correct. Also said: 145 AH
    الْأَعْمَشُثقة حافظ , عارف بالقراءات ورع لكنه يدلس
    حدثنا
  4. Trustworthy, a memorizer, devout (thiqah ḥāfiẓ ʿābid)d. 196 AH, or 197 AH, or 198 AH
    وَكِيعٌثقة حافظ عابد
    حدثنا
  5. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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