Musnad Ahmad 16066
✧ The rest of the conversation of Khuraim bin Fatik
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حَدَّثَنَا هَيْثَمُ بْنُ خَارِجَةَ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا طَيَّافٌ الْإِسْكَنْدَرَانِيُّ عَنِ ابْنِ شَرَاحِيلَ بْنِ بَكِيلٍ عَنِ أَبِيهِ شَرَاحِيلَ قَالَ
قُلْتُ لِابْنِ عُمَرَ: إِنَّ لِي أَرْحَامًا بِمِصْرَ يَتَّخِذُونَ مِنْ هَذِهِ الْأَعْنَابِ، قَالَ: وَفَعَلَ ذَلِكَ أَحَدٌ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ؟ قُلْتُ: نَعَمْ، قَالَ: لَا تَكُونُوا بِمَنْزِلَةِ الْيَهُودِ، حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْهِمُ الشُّحُومُ فَبَاعُوهَا وَأَكَلُوا أَثْمَانَهَا، قَالَ: قُلْتُ: مَا تَقُولُ فِي رَجُلٍ أَخَذَ عُنْقُودًا فَعَصَرَهُ فَشَرِبَهُ؟ قَالَ: لَا بَأْسَ، فَلَمَّا ثُرْتُ قَالَ: مَا حَلَّ شُرْبُهُ حَلَّ بَيْعُهُ.
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Chain of narrators
- Haytham b. Khārijah
- Ṭayyāf al-Iskandarānī
- Ibn Sharāḥīl b. Bakīl
- Abīh Sharāḥīl
✧ I said to Ibn Umar: I have relatives in Egypt who make [wine] from these grapes. He said: And any Muslim does that? I said: Yes. He said: Do not be like the Jews, for fat was forbidden to them, so they sold it and consumed its price. He said: I said: What do you say about a man who took a bunch of grapes, pressed it, and drank it? He said: There is no harm. Then when I got up, he said: Whatever it is lawful to drink is lawful to sell.
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- Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī
فيه ابن بكيل وطياف ولم أعرفهما وبقية رجاله ثقات
in مسند أحمد, p. 16243
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- One of the Companions who narrated most often, and one of the ʿAbādilah; he was among the people most strict in following the narrations (athar).d. 72 AH, or 73 AH, or 74 AH, also said: 75 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِأحد المكثرين من الصحابة والعبادلة ، وكان من أشد الناس اتباعا للأثرقلت
- شُرَاحِيلَعن
- ابْنِ شَرَاحِيلَ بْنِ بُكَيْلٍعن
- طَيَّافٌ الْإِسْكَنْدَرَانِيُّحدثنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 227 AH, or: 228 AHهَيْثَمُ بْنُ خَارِجَةَصدوقحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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