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Musnad Ahmad 11170

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حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ مَهْدِيٍّ حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ عَنْ سَعْدِ بْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ أَبَا أُمَامَةَ بْنَ سَهْلٍ يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ فَذَكَرَ مَعْنَى حَدِيثِ غُنْدَرٍ عَنْ شُعْبَةَ فِي حُكْمِ سَعْدِ بْنِ مُعَاذٍ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ قَالَ

فَإِنِّي أَحْكُمُ أَنْ تُقْتَلَ مُقَاتِلَتُهُمْ، وَتُسْبَى ذُرِّيَّتُهُمْ. فَقَالَ: لَقَدْ حَكَمْتَ فِيهِمْ بِحُكْمِ اللهِ وَقَالَ مَرَّةً: لَقَدْ حَكَمْتَ فِيهِمْ بِحُكْمِ الْمَلَكِ، أَوِ الْمَلِكِ، شَكَّ عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. ʿAbd al-Raḥman b. Mahdī
  2. Shuʿbah
  3. Saʿd b. Ibrāhīm
  4. Abū Umāmah b. Sahl Yuḥaddith
  5. Abū Saʿīd Fadhakar Maʿná Ḥadīth Ghundar
  6. Shuʿbah Fī Ḥukm Saʿd b. Muʿādh Illā

✧ "For I judge that their fighters be killed and their offspring be taken captive." He said: "You have judged among them by the judgment of God," and once he said: "You have judged among them by the judgment of the Angel," or "the King." 'Abd al-Rahman was uncertain.

Notes

  • وَحَدَّثَنَاهُ عَفَّانُ قَالَ الْمَلِكُ

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  • Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī

    سنده حسن

    machine translationIts chain is good (ḥasan).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 11281
  • Dāraquṭnī

    وسئل عن حديث عامر بن سعد عن سعد فقال حدث به سعد بن إبراهيم واختلف عنه فرواه محمد بن صالح التمار عن سعد بن إبراهيم عن عامر بن سعد عن سعد وخالفه عياض بن عبد الرحمن فرواه عن سعد بن إبراهيم عن أبيه عن جده عبد الرحمن بن عوف وكلاهما وهم وخالفهما شعبة فرواه عن سعد عن أبي أمامة بن سهل بن حنيف عن أبي سعيد الخدري وهو الصواب

    machine translationHe was asked about the hadith of ʿĀmir b. Saʿd, from Saʿd, and he said: Saʿd b. Ibrāhīm narrated it, and there is disagreement about him. Muḥammad b. Ṣāliḥ al-Tammār narrated it from Saʿd b. Ibrāhīm, from ʿĀmir b. Saʿd, from Saʿd. ʿIyāḍ b. ʿAbd al-Raḥmān contradicted him and narrated it from Saʿd b. Ibrāhīm, from his father, from his grandfather ʿAbd al-Raḥmān b. ʿAwf. Both of them are mistaken (wahm). Shuʿbah contradicted them both and narrated it from Saʿd, from Abū Umāmah b. Sahl b. Ḥunayf, from Abū Saʿīd al-Khudrī, and that is the correct (ṣawāb) version.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 11281

Other narrations of this report

Sahih Muslim 1769bJami' at-Tirmidhi 1582

Narrators

  1. Abū Saʿīd al-Khudrī
    He and his father were Companions (ṣuḥbah).d. 63 AH, or 64 AH, or 65 AH, or 74 AH
    أَبُو سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيُّله ولأبيه صحبة
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  2. Asʿad b. Sahl b. Ḥunayf
    Counted among the Companions; he saw the Prophet ﷺ but did not hear from himd. 100 AH
    أَبَا أُمَامَةَ بْنَ سَهْلٍمعدود في الصحابة ، له رؤية ، ولم يسمع من النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم
    سمعت
  3. Saʿd b. Ibrāhīm b. ʿAbd al-Raḥman b. ʿAwf
    He was trustworthy (thiqah), virtuous, and devout.d. 125 AH or 126 AH or 127 AH or 128 AH or 130 AH
    سَعْدِ بْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَوكان ثقة فاضلا عابدا
    عن
  4. Shuʿbah
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), meticulous (mutqin)d. 160 AH
    شُعْبَةُثقة حافظ , متقن
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  5. ʿAbd al-Raḥman b. Mahdī
    Trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), knowledgeable of the narrators and of ḥadīthd. 198 AH
    عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ مَهْدِيٍّثقة ثبت حافظ ، عارف بالرجال والحديث
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  6. Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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