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Jami' at-Tirmidhi 2133

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حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُعَاوِيَةَ الْجُمَحِيُّ الْبَصْرِيُّ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا صَالِحٌ الْمُرِّيُّ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ حَسَّانَ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سِيرِينَ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ

خَرَجَ عَلَيْنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ وَنَحْنُ نَتَنَازَعُ فِي الْقَدَرِ فَغَضِبَ حَتَّى احْمَرَّ وَجْهُهُ حَتَّى كَأَنَّمَا فُقِئَ فِي وَجْنَتَيْهِ الرُّمَّانُ فَقَالَ أَبِهَذَا أُمِرْتُمْ أَمْ بِهَذَا أُرْسِلْتُ إِلَيْكُمْ إِنَّمَا هَلَكَ مَنْ كَانَ قَبْلَكُمْ حِينَ تَنَازَعُوا فِي هَذَا الأَمْرِ عَزَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ أَلاَّ تَتَنَازَعُوا فِيهِ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. ʿAbdullāh b. Muʿāwiyah al-Jumaḥī al-Baṣrī
  2. Ṣāliḥ al-Murrī
  3. Hishām b. Ḥassān
  4. Muḥammad b. Sīrīn
  5. Abū Hurayrah

"The Messenger of Allah ﷺ came out to us while we were discussing about Al-Qadar. He became angry such that his face became red, as if a pomegranate was bursting through his cheeks. He said: 'Is this what I ordered you to do?' - or: 'Is this what I have been sent to you with? The people before you were only ruined when they differed about this matter. I order you [I order you] to not debate about it.'".

Notes

  • قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ عُمَرَ وَعَائِشَةَ وَأَنَسٍ وَهَذَا حَدِيثٌ غَرِيبٌ لاَ نَعْرِفُهُ إِلاَّ مِنْ هَذَا الْوَجْهِ مِنْ حَدِيثِ صَالِحٍ الْمُرِّيِّ وَصَالِحٌ الْمُرِّيُّ لَهُ غَرَائِبُ يَنْفَرِدُ بِهَا لاَ يُتَابَعُ عَلَيْهَا

    machine translationAbū ʿĪsā said: On this topic there are narrations from ʿUmar, ʿĀʾishah and Anas. This is a strange (gharīb) hadith; we do not know it except through this route, from the hadith of Ṣāliḥ al-Murrī. Ṣāliḥ al-Murrī has strange reports (gharāʾib) that he alone narrates and in which he is not corroborated.

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  • al-Tirmidhi

    وهذا حديث غريب لا نعرفه إلا من هذا الوجه من حديث صالح المري

    machine translationThis is a strange (gharīb) hadith; we do not know it except through this route, from the hadith of Ṣāliḥ al-Murrī.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 2295
  • Mubarakpūri

    في سنده صالح بن بشير بن وادع المري أبو بشر البصري وهو ضعيف وقال الذهبي ضعفوه ولم يخرج له من أصحاب الكتب الستة فيها سوى الترمذي

    machine translationIn its chain is Ṣāliḥ b. Bashīr b. Wādiʿ al-Murrī, Abū Bishr al-Baṣrī, who is weak (ḍaʿīf). al-Dhahabī said: They declared him weak. Of the authors of the Six Books, only al-Tirmidhī narrated from him.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 2295
  • Mubarakpūri

    وصالح المري له غرائب يتفرد بها قال في التقريب صالح بن بشير بن وادع المري بضم الميم وتشديد الراء أبو البشر البصري القاص الزاهد ضعيف من السابعة

    machine translationṢāliḥ al-Murrī has strange reports (gharāʾib) that he alone narrates. In al-Taqrīb it says: Ṣāliḥ b. Bashīr b. Wādiʿ al-Murrī, with a ḍammah on the mīm and a shaddah on the rāʾ, Abū Bishr al-Baṣrī, the storyteller and ascetic, is weak (ḍaʿīf), of the seventh generation.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 2295
  • ابن عدي

    صالح قد يقبل بهشام بن حسان فيحدث عنه بأحاديث بواطيل

    machine translationṢāliḥ would sometimes turn to Hishām b. Ḥassān and narrate false hadiths from him.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 2295
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  • al-Tirmidhi

    غريب لا نعرفه إلا من هذا الوجه من حديث صالح المري وله غرائب ينفرد بها لا يتابع عليها

    machine translationStrange (gharīb); we do not know it except through this route, from the hadith of Ṣāliḥ al-Murrī. He has strange reports (gharāʾib) that he alone narrates and in which he is not corroborated.

    in سنن الترمذي, p. 2133

Same hadith, other wordings

  • Misykatul Mashabih 98وَعَن أبي هُرَيْرَة قَالَ: خَرَجَ عَلَيْنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَنَحْنُ نَتَنَازَعُ فِي الْقَدَرِ فَغَضِبَ حَتَّى احْمَرَّ وَجْهُهُ حَتَّى كَأَنَّمَا فُقِئَ فِي وجنتيه الرُّمَّانِ فَقَالَ أَبِهَذَا: «أُمِرْتُم

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. The illustrious Companion, the memorizer among the Companions (ḥāfiẓ al-ṣaḥābah)d. 57 AH, or: 58 AH, or: 59 AH
    أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ الدَّوْسِيُّالصحابي الجليل ، حافظ الصحابة
    عن
  2. Trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), devout (ʿābid), of great standing; he did not permit narration by meaning.d. 110 AH
    مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سِيرِينَثقة ثبت عابد كبير القدر ، كان لا يرى الرواية بالمعنى
    عن
  3. Trustworthy (thiqah), among the most reliable of people in narrating from Ibn Sīrīn; there is some criticism of his narration from al-Ḥasan and ʿAṭāʾ, because it was said that he used to narrate from them by way of mursal transmission (irsāl).d. 146 AH, or 147 AH, or 148 AH
    هِشَامِ بْنِ حَسَّانَثقة من أثبت الناس في ابن سيرين ، وفي روايته عن الحسن وعطاء مقال لأنه قيل : كان يرسل عنهما
    عن
  4. weak (ḍaʿīf)d. Khalīfah said: 172 AH, Ibn Ḥibbān said: 176 AH
    صَالِحٌ الْمُرِّيُّضعيف
    حدثنا
  5. trustworthy (thiqah), long-lived (muʿammar)d. 240 AH, or 243 AH
    عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مُعَاوِيَةَ الْجُمَحِيُّ الْبَصْرِيُّثقة معمر
    حدثنا
  6. trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AH
    التِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ

Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com

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Commentaries

Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Mirʿāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mubārakfūrī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)

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