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Jami' at-Tirmidhi 18

What Has Been Related Regarding] What Is Disliked For One to use for Istinja

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حَدَّثَنَا هَنَّادٌ حَدَّثَنَا حَفْصُ بْنُ غِيَاثٍ عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي هِنْدٍ عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ عَنْ عَلْقَمَةَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مَسْعُودٍ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ

لاَ تَسْتَنْجُوا بِالرَّوْثِ وَلاَ بِالْعِظَامِ فَإِنَّهُ زَادُ إِخْوَانِكُمْ مِنَ الْجِنِّ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Hannād
  2. Ḥafṣ b. Ghiyāth
  3. Dāwud b. Abū Hind
  4. al-Shaʿbī
  5. ʿAlqamah
  6. ʿAbdullāh b. Masʿūd
  7. Rasūl Allāh ﷺ

Messenger of Allah said: "Do not perform Istinja, with dung, nor with bones. For indeed it is provisions for your brothers among the Jinn."

Notes

  • وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ وَسَلْمَانَ وَجَابِرٍ وَابْنِ عُمَرَ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى وَقَدْ رَوَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَغَيْرُهُ عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي هِنْدٍ عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ عَنْ عَلْقَمَةَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ أَنَّهُ كَانَ مَعَ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ لَيْلَةَ الْجِنِّ الْحَدِيثَ بِطُولِهِ فَقَالَ الشَّعْبِيُّ إِنَّ النَّبِيَّ ﷺ قَالَ لاَ تَسْتَنْجُوا بِالرَّوْثِ وَلاَ بِالْعِظَامِ فَإِنَّهُ زَادُ إِخْوَانِكُمْ مِنَ الْجِنِّ وَكَأَنَّ رِوَايَةَ إِسْمَاعِيلَ أَصَحُّ مِنْ رِوَايَةِ حَفْصِ بْنِ غِيَاثٍ وَالْعَمَلُ عَلَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثِ عِنْدَ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ جَابِرٍ وَابْنِ عُمَرَ ؓ

    machine translationOn this topic there are narrations from Abū Hurayrah, Salmān, Jābir and Ibn ʿUmar. Abū ʿĪsā said: This hadith was narrated by Ismāʿīl b. Ibrāhīm and others from Dāwūd b. Abī Hind, from al-Shaʿbī, from ʿAlqamah, from ʿAbdullāh, that he was with the Prophet ﷺ on the night of the jinn (the hadith in full). Then al-Shaʿbī said: The Prophet ﷺ said: "Do not clean yourselves with dung or with bones, for it is the provision of your brothers among the jinn." The narration of Ismāʿīl seems more sound (aṣaḥḥ) than the narration of Ḥafṣ b. Ghiyāth. The practice according to this hadith is among the people of knowledge. On this topic there are narrations from Jābir and Ibn ʿUmar, may God be pleased with them.

  • قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى وَقَدْ رَوَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَغَيْرُهُ عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي هِنْدٍ عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ عَنْ عَلْقَمَةَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ أَنَّهُ كَانَ مَعَ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم لَيْلَةَ الْجِنِّ - الْحَدِيثَ بِطُولِهِ - فَقَالَ الشَّعْبِيُّ إِنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " لاَ تَسْتَنْجُوا بِالرَّوْثِ وَلاَ بِالْعِظَامِ فَإِنَّهُ زَادُ إِخْوَانِكُمْ مِنَ الْجِنِّ ". وَكَأَنَّ رِوَايَةَ إِسْمَاعِيلَ أَصَحُّ مِنْ رِوَايَةِ حَفْصِ بْنِ غِيَاثٍ. وَالْعَمَلُ عَلَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثِ عِنْدَ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ. وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ جَابِرٍ وَابْنِ عُمَرَ رضى الله عنهما.

    machine translationAbū ʿĪsā said: This hadith was narrated by Ismāʿīl b. Ibrāhīm and others from Dāwūd b. Abī Hind, from al-Shaʿbī, from ʿAlqamah, from ʿAbdullāh, that he was with the Prophet ﷺ on the night of the jinn - the hadith in full - then al-Shaʿbī said: The Prophet ﷺ said: "Do not clean yourselves with dung or with bones, for it is the provision of your brothers among the jinn." The narration of Ismāʿīl seems more sound (aṣaḥḥ) than the narration of Ḥafṣ b. Ghiyāth. The practice according to this hadith is among the people of knowledge. On this topic there are narrations from Jābir and Ibn ʿUmar, may God be pleased with them both.

Grades by grader

Zubair Ali ZaiSoundfawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com
Ahmad Muhammad ShakirSahihfawazahmed0
al-AlbaniSoundin صحيح سنن الترمذي, p. 18Another source records this grader as “Daif” (fawazahmed0).hadithunlocked

What scholars said about it

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  • al-Tirmidhi

    كأن رواية إسماعيل أصح من رواية حفص بن غياث

    machine translationThe narration of Ismāʿīl seems more sound (aṣaḥḥ) than the narration of Ḥafṣ b. Ghiyāth.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 20
  • Dāraquṭnī

    يرويه داود بن أبي هند عن الشعبي عن علقمة عن عبد الله رواه عنه جماعة من الكوفيين والبصريين فأما البصريون فجعلوا قوله وسألوه الزاد إلى آخر الحديث من قول الشعبي مرسلا وأما يحيى بن أبي زائدة وغيره من الكوفيين فأدرجوه في حديث ابن مسعود عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم والصحيح قول من فصله فإنه من كلام الشعبي مرسلا

    machine translationDāwūd b. Abī Hind narrates it from al-Shaʿbī, from ʿAlqamah, from ʿAbdullāh; a group of Kufans and Basrans narrated it from him. The Basrans made the words "and they asked him for provision" to the end of the hadith the statement of al-Shaʿbī, as a mursal report. As for Yaḥyā b. Abī Zāʾidah and others of the Kufans, they inserted it (idrāj) into the hadith of Ibn Masʿūd from the Prophet ﷺ. The correct view is that of those who separated it, for it is the speech of al-Shaʿbī as a mursal report.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 20
  • al-Tirmidhi

    كأن هذه الرواية أصح يعني فيكون مرسلا

    machine translationThis narration seems to be more sound (aṣaḥḥ), meaning that it would then be mursal.

    in جامع الترمذي, p. 20

Same hadith, other wordings

  • Misykatul Mashabih 350وَعَنِ ابْنِ مَسْعُودٍ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: «لَا تَسْتَنْجُوا بِالرَّوْثِ وَلَا بِالْعِظَامِ فَإِنَّهَا زَادُ إِخْوَانِكُمْ مِنَ الْجِنِّ». رَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيُّ وَالنَّسَائِيُّ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَم

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. One of the earliest and foremost (al-sābiqūn al-awwalūn), and one of the leading scholars among the Companions; his virtues are manyd. 28 AH, or 32 AH, 33 AH
    عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مَسْعُودٍمن السابقين الأولين ، ومن كبار العلماء من الصحابة ، مناقبه جمة
    عن
  2. Trustworthy (thiqah), firm (thabt), jurist, devout worshipperd. 61 AH, or 62 AH, or 65 AH, or 72 AH, or 73 AH, also said: 63 AH
    عَلْقَمَةَثقة ثبت فقيه عابد
    عن
  3. Trustworthy (thiqah), well-known, a virtuous jurist (faqīh fāḍil)d. 103 AH, said by al-Haytham b. ʿAdī, and Yaḥyā b. Bukayr, Yaḥyā b. Maʿīn, 104 AH, said by Yaḥyā b. Maʿīn, and Ismāʿīl b. Mujālid, and Abū Nuʿaym, and Muḥammad b. ʿImrān al-Bajalī, and ʿUmar b. Shabīb al-Muslī, and ʿAbd Allāh b. Idrīs, 105 AH, said by Isḥāq b. Yaḥyā, Muḥammad b. ʿAbd Allāh b. Numayr, or: 106 AH, said by ʿAlī b. al-Madīnī, and ʿAmr b. ʿAlī, 107 AH, said by ʿAlī b. al-Madīnī, or: 109 AH, said by Ibn Ḥibbān, 110 AH, said by ʿAlī b. ʿAbd Allāh al-Tamīmī
    الشَّعْبِيِّثقة ، مشهور ، فقيه فاضل
    عن
  4. Trustworthy and meticulous (thiqah mutqin), though he would make mistakes (yahim) toward the end of his lifed. 139 AH, or 140 AH, or: 141 AH, also said: 127 AH
    دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي ج١ / ص٧٠هِنْدٍثقة متقن ، كان يهم بآخره
    عن
  5. trustworthy (thiqah), a jurist (faqīh), whose memory changed slightly toward the end of his lifed. 194 AH, also said: 195 AH, or 196 AH
    حَفْصُ بْنُ غِيَاثٍثقة فقيه ، تغير حفظه قليلا في الآخر
    حدثنا
  6. trustworthy (thiqah)d. 243 AH
    هَنَّادٌثقة
    حدثنا
  7. trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AH
    التِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ

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Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.

Commentaries

Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Mirʿāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mubārakfūrī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)

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