al-Mu'jam al-Saghir 544
✧ Those named 'Ali
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حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ جَبَلَةَ الْكَاتِبُ الْبَغْدَادِيُّ، بِأَصْبَهَانَ، حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ بِشْرٍ الْبَجَلِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا قَيْسُ بْنُ الرَّبِيعِ، عَنْ سُهَيْلِ بْنِ أَبِي صَالِحٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ ؓ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ:
مَنْ تَعَلَّمَ الرَّمْيَ ثُمَّ نَسِيَهُ فَهِيَ نِعْمَةٌ جَحَدَهَا
Translation
Chain of narrators
- ʿAlī b. Jabalah al-Kātib al-Baghdādī Biʾaṣbahān
- al-Ḥasan b. Bishr al-Bajalī
- Qays b. al-Rabīʿ
- Suhayl b. Abū Ṣāliḥ
- his father
- Abū Hurayrah
- Rasūl Allāh Ṣallá Allāh ʿAlayh Wālih and Sallam
✧ Whoever learns archery and then forgets it, it is a blessing he has denied.
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- Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī
هذا حديث منكر
machine translationThis is a rejected (munkar) hadith.
in المعجم الصغير, p. 544 - Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī
وفيه قيس بن الربيع وثقه شعبة والثوري وغيرهما وضعفه جماعة وبقية رجاله ثقات
in المعجم الصغير, p. 544
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- The illustrious Companion, the memorizer among the Companions (ḥāfiẓ al-ṣaḥābah)d. 57 AH, or: 58 AH, or: 59 AHأَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ الدَّوْسِيُّالصحابي الجليل ، حافظ الصحابةعن
- trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 101 AHأَبِيهِثقة ثبتعن
- truthful (ṣadūq); his memory deteriorated at the end of his lifed. 138 AH, or: 140 AH, or: 141 AH, in Tārīkh Ibn Abī ʿĀṣim: 128 AHسُهَيْلِ بْنِ أَبِي صَالِحٍصدوق , تغير حفظه بآخرهعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq), changed when he grew old, his son inserted into his [material] what was not of his hadith, and he narrated itd. 165 AH, or: 166 AH, or: 167 AH, or: 168 AHقَيْسُ بْنُ الرَّبِيعِصدوق تغير لما كبر ، وأدخل عليه ابنه ما ليس من حديثه فحدث بهحدثنا
- truthful (ṣadūq), makes mistakes (yukhṭiʾ)d. 221 AHالْحَسَنُ بْنُ بِشْرٍ الْبَجَلِيُّصدوق يخطئحدثنا
- d. 291 AHعَلِيُّ بْنُ جَبَلَةَ الْكَاتِبُ الْبَغْدَادِيُّحدثنا
- d. 360 AHالطبراني
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