al-Mu'jam al-Awsat 5978
✧ Muhammad b. Ali b. al-Ahmar al-Naqid al-Basri
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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ الْأَحْمَرِ النَّاقِدُ، قَالَ: نَا نَصْرُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ قَالَ: أَخْبَرَنِي أَبِي، عَنْ طَلْحَةَ بْنِ النَّضْرِ الْحُدَّانِيِّ، قَالَ:
سَمِعْتُ مُحَمَّدَ بْنَ سِيرِينَ، سَأَلَهُ رَجُلٌ عَنِ الْوَهْمِ، فَقَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّهُ: صَلَّى مَعَ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ صَلَاةً مِنْ صَلَاةِ النَّهَارِ، وَأَنَّهُ صَلَّى رَكْعَتَيْنِ ثُمَّ سَلَّمَ، فَخَرَجَ سَرَعَانُ النَّاسِ، فَقَالُوا: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، أَقَصُرَتِ الصَّلَاةُ ؟ وَفِي الْقَوْمِ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ فَهَابَاهُ أَنْ يُكَلِّمَاهُ، فَقَالَ رَجُلٌ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، أَقَصُرَتِ الصَّلَاةُ أَمْ نَسِيتَ ؟ فَقَالَ: لَمْ تَقْصُرْ، وَلَمْ أَنْسَ، فَقَالَ رَجُلٌ: بِأَبِي وَأُمِّي نَسِيتَ، إِنَّمَا صَلَّيْتَ رَكْعَتَيْنِ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ: أَحَقٌّ مَا يَقُولُ ذُو الْيَدَيْنِ ؟ فَقَالُوا: صَدَقَ يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، فَقَامَ فَرَكَعَ رَكْعَتَيْنِ إِلَى رَكْعَتَيْهِ الْأُولَيَيْنِ، ثُمَّ سَلَّمَ، ثُمَّ سَجَدَ سَجْدَتَيْنِ نَحْوًا مِنْ سُجُودِهُ فِي صَلَاتِهِ، أَوْ أَطْوَلَ.
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Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. ʿAlī b. al-Aḥmar al-Nāqid
- Naṣr b. ʿAlī
- my father
- Ṭalḥah b. al-Naḍr al-Ḥuddānī
✧ I heard Muhammad b. Sirin, when a man asked him about forgetfulness in prayer, say: Abu Hurayrah narrated to us that he prayed with the Messenger of God ﷺ one of the daytime prayers, and that he prayed two rakʿahs then said the salutation. The quickest of the people left, and they said: 'O Messenger of God, has the prayer been shortened?' Among the people were Abu Bakr and ʿUmar, but they were too awed to speak to him. A man among the Muslims said: 'O Messenger of God, has the prayer been shortened or did you forget?' He said: 'It has not been shortened, and I have not forgotten.' A man said: 'May my father and mother be your ransom, you forgot. You only prayed two rakʿahs.' The Messenger of God ﷺ said: 'Is what Dhu al-Yadayn says true?' They said: 'He has spoken the truth, O Messenger of God.' He then stood up and prayed two more rakʿahs in addition to the first two, then said the salutation, then prostrated twice, similar to his prostration in the prayer or longer.
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- Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr
فإن قال قائل إن حديث ذي اليدين مضطرب لأن ابن عمر وأبا هريرة يقولان سلم من اثنتين وعمران بن حصين يقول من ثلاث ركعات ومعاوية بن حديج يقول إن المتكلم طلحة بن عبيد الله قيل له ليس اختلافهم في موضع السلام من الصلاة عند أحد من أهل العلم بخلاف يقدح في حديثهم لأن المعنى المراد من الحديث هو البناء بعد الكلام ولا فرق عند أهل العلم بين المسلم من ثلاث أو من اثنتين لأن كل واحد منهما لم يكمل صلاته وأما ما ذكر في حديث معاوية بن حديج من ذكر طلحة بن عبيد الله فممكن أن يكون أيضا طلحة كلمه وغيره وليس في أن يكلمه طلحة وغيره ما يدفع أن ذا اليدين كلمه أيضا فأدى كل ما سمع على حسب ما سمع
machine translationIf someone says: the hadith of Dhū l-Yadayn is inconsistent (muḍṭarib), because Ibn ʿUmar and Abū Hurayrah say that he gave the salām after two units, while ʿImrān b. Ḥuṣayn says after three units, and Muʿāwiyah b. Ḥudayj says that the one who spoke was Ṭalḥah b. ʿUbaydillāh, it is said to him: their disagreement about the point of the prayer at which the salām was given is not, according to any of the people of knowledge, a disagreement that undermines their hadith, because the meaning intended by the hadith is building on the prayer after speaking. There is no difference among the people of knowledge between one who gave the salām after three or after two, because neither of them had completed his prayer. As for what is mentioned in the hadith of Muʿāwiyah b. Ḥudayj about Ṭalḥah b. ʿUbaydillāh, it is possible that Ṭalḥah and others also spoke to him, and Ṭalḥah and others speaking to him does not rule out that Dhū l-Yadayn also spoke to him. So each one reported what he heard according to what he heard.
in المعجم الأوسط, p. 5978
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Narrators
- The illustrious Companion, the memorizer among the Companions (ḥāfiẓ al-ṣaḥābah)d. 57 AH, or: 58 AH, or: 59 AHأَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ الدَّوْسِيُّالصحابي الجليل ، حافظ الصحابةحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), devout (ʿābid), of great standing; he did not permit narration by meaning.d. 110 AHمحمد بن سيرينثقة ثبت عابد كبير القدر ، كان لا يرى الرواية بالمعنىسمعت
- d. between 161 and 170 AHطَلْحَةَ بْنِ النَّضْرِ الْحُدَّانِيِّعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 187 AHأَبِيثقةأخبرني
- Trustworthy and firmly reliable (thiqah thabt); he was asked to take the judgeship (qaḍāʾ) but declinedd. 250 AH, also said: 251 AHنَصْرُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّثقة ثبت ، طلب للقضاء فامتنعنا
- مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ الْأَحْمَرِ النَّاقِدُحدثنا
- d. 360 AHالطبراني
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