Jami' al-Saghir / Jam' al-Jawami' (al-Suyuti) 4-2323b
"عَنِ الْحَارِثِ قَالَ: جَاءَ رَجُلٌ إِلَى عَلِىٍّ فَقَالَ: يَا أَميرَ الْمُؤمِنينَ! أَخْبرْنِى عَن الْقَدَرِ؟ قَالَ: طَريقٌ مُظْلِمٌ لَا تَسلُكْهُ. قَالَ: يَا أَمِيرَ الْمؤمِنِينَ! أَخْبِرْنِى عَنِ الْقَدرِ، قَالَ: بَحْرٌ لَا تَلِجْهُ. قَالَ: يَا أَميرَ الْمُؤمِنينَ! أَخْبِرْنِى عَنِ الْقَدَرِ؟ قَالَ: سِرُّ اللهِ قَدْ خَفِىَ عَلَيْكَ فَلَا تفْشِهِ، قَالَ: يَا أَميرَ المَؤمِنينَ! أَخْبِرْنِى عَنِ القَدرِ؟، قَالَ: أَيُّهَا السَّائِلُ إِنَّ اللهَ خَلَقَكَ كَما شَاءَ أَوْ كَمَا شِئْتَ؟ قَالَ: بَل كمَا شَاءَ، فَيسْتَعْمِلُكَ كَما شَاءَ أَوْ كَمَا شئْتَ؟ قَالَ: بَلْ كمَا شَاءَ، قَالَ: فَيَبْعَثُكَ كَمَا شَاءَ أَوْ كَمَا شِئْتَ؟ قَالَ: بَلْ كَمَا شَاءَ، قَالَ: أَيُّها السَّائِلُ! ؟ أَلَسْتَ تَسْأَلُ رَبَّكَ العَافِيةَ؟ قَالَ بَلَى قَالَ: فَمِنْ أَىِّ شَئٍ تَسْأَلُهُ العَافيَةَ، أَمِنَ الْبَلَاءِ الَّذِى ابْتَلَاكَ بِهِ؟ أَم مِنَ الْبَلَاءَ الَّذِى ابْتَلَاكَ به غَيْرُهُ؟ قَالَ: مِنَ الْبَلَاءِ الَّذى ابْتَلَانِى بِهِ، قَالَ: أَيُّهَا السَّائِلُ تَقُولُ لَا حَوْلَ وَلَا قُوَّةَ إِلَّا بِمَنْ؟ قَالَ: إِلَّا باللهِ العَلِىِّ الْعَظِيمِ، قَالَ: أَفَتَعْلَمُ مَا تَفْسِيرهَا؟ قَالَ: تُعَلِّمِنِى مِمَّا عَلَّمَكَ اللهُ يا أَمِيرَ المُؤْمِنِينَ، قَاَلَ: إِنَّ تَفْسِيرَهَا لَا يَقْدِرُ عَلَى طَاعَةِ الله، وَلا تَكُون لَهُ قُوَّةٌ فِى مَعْصَيِة اللهِ إِلَّا فِي الأَمرَيْنِ جَمِيعًا إِلَّا باللهِ، أَيُّهَا السَّائِلُ أَلَكَ مَعَ اللهِ مَشِيئَةٌ أَوْ فَوْقَ اللهِ مَشِيئَةٌ، أَوْ دُونَ اللهِ مَشيِئَةٌ؟ فَإِنْ قُلْتَ إِنَّ لَكَ دُونَ اللهِ مَشِيئَةً فَقَدْ اكْتَفَيْتَ بِهَا عَنِ مَشِيْئَة الله، وَإنْ زَعَمْتَ أَنَّ لَكَ فَوْقَ الله مَشِيئَةً فَقَدْ ادَّعَيْتَ مَعَ الله شَرِيكًا فِي مَشيئَتِهِ، أَيُّها السَّائِلُ إِنَّ الله يَشُجُّ وَيُدَاوِى، فَمِنْهُ الدَّاءُ ومِنْهُ الدَّوَاءُ، أَعَقَلْتَ عَنِ الله أَمْرَهُ. قَالَ: نَعَمْ، قَالَ عَلِىٌ: الآنَ أَسْلَم أخُوكُمْ فَقُومُوا فَصَافِحُوهُ، ثُمَّ قَالَ عَلِىٌ: لَوْ أنَّ عِنْدى رَجُلًا مِنَ الْقَدريَّةِ لأَخَذْتُ بِرَقَبَتِهِ ثُمَّ لَا أَزَالُ أَجَأهَا حَتَّى أَقْطَعَهَا، فَإِنَّهُم يَهُودُ هَذِهِ الأُمَّةِ وَنَصَارَاهَا ومَجُوسُهَا".
Translation
Chain of narrators
- al-Ḥārith
- Jāʾ a man
- ʿAli
- Yā Amyr al-Muʾminyn Akhbrniá
- al-Qadar
- Ṭaryq Muẓlim Lā Taslukh
- Yā Amīr al-Mʾminīn Akhbirniá
- al-Qadr
- Baḥr Lā Talijh
- Yā Amyr al-Muʾminyn Akhbirniá
- al-Qadar
- Sir Allāh Qad Khafi ʿAlayk Falā Tfshih
- Yā Amyr al-Maʾminyn Akhbirniá
- al-Qadr
- Ayyuhā al-Sāʾil In Allāh Khalaqak Kamā Shāʾ or Kamā Shiʾt
- Bal Kmā
Machine translation, not reviewed
"From al-Harith who said: A man came to 'Ali and said: O Commander of the Faithful! Inform me about predestination. He said: A dark path, do not walk it. He said: O Commander of the Faithful! Inform me about predestination. He said: A sea, do not enter it. He said: O Commander of the Faithful! Inform me about predestination. He said: The secret of Allah, which has been hidden from you, so do not disclose it. He said: O Commander of the Faithful! Inform me about predestination? He said: O questioner, did Allah create you as He willed or as you willed? He said: Rather, as He willed. He said: Then will He employ you as He willed or as you willed? He said: Rather, as He willed. He said: Then will He resurrect you as He willed or as you willed? He said: Rather, as He willed. He said: O questioner! Do you not ask your Lord for well-being? He said: Yes. He said: Then for what do you ask Him for well-being, from the affliction with which He has tested you, or from the affliction with which others have tested you? He said: From the affliction with which He has tested me. He said: O questioner, you say: There is no power and no strength except by whom? He said: Except by Allah, the Most High, the Mighty. He said: Do you know its explanation? He said: Teach me what Allah has taught you, O Commander of the Faithful. He said: Its explanation is that one cannot obey Allah, and there is no power to disobey Allah, except in both matters together, except by Allah. O questioner, do you have a will with Allah, or a will above Allah, or a will below Allah? If you say that you have a will below Allah, then you have been content with it instead of the will of Allah, and if you claim that you have a will above Allah, then you have claimed a partner with Allah in His will. O questioner, Allah wounds and heals, so from Him is the disease and from Him is the cure. Have you understood from Allah His command? He said: Yes. 'Ali said: Now your brother has embraced Islam, so stand and shake his hand. Then 'Ali said: If I had a man of the Qadariyyah with me, I would seize his neck and then never cease pressing it until I cut it off, for they are the Jews of this nation, its Christians, and its Magians."
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Notes
[كر] ابن عساكر في تاريخه
machine translation[Kar] Ibn ʿAsākir, in his Tārīkh.
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