Mishkat al-Masabih 5725
The Beginning of Creation, and Mention of the Prophets - Section 2
عَن أبي رزين قَالَ: قلت: يَا رَسُول الله أَيْن رَبُّنَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَ خَلْقَهُ؟ قَالَ: «كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ». رَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيُّ وَقَالَ: قَالَ يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ: الْعَمَاءُ: أَيْ لَيْسَ مَعَه شَيْء
Translation
Abu Razin told that he asked God's messenger, "Where was our Lord before He created the creation?" to which he replied, "He was in obscurity ( 'ama' ) with no air below Him and no air above Him, and He created His Throne on the water." Tirmidhi transmitted it. Yazid b. Harun[1] said `ama' means that there was nothing with Him[2]. Al-Wasiti (d.206), a highly estimated authority who appears in the course of the isnad. The word 'ama' presents difficulty. It commonly means `clouds', but this is felt to be inappropriate here unless figuratively in the sense of God being veiled. It is suggested that this means it is a matter which the mind cannot grasp. Cf. Mirqat, 5:349.
Grades by grader
| Ahmad Muhammad Shakir | Daifgraded on tirmidhi:3109 | fawazahmed0 |
|---|---|---|
| Bashar Awad Maarouf | Hasangraded on tirmidhi:3109 | fawazahmed0 |
| Muhammad Fuad Abd al-Baqi | Daifgraded on ibnmajah:182 | fawazahmed0 |
| Shuayb al-Arnaut | Daifgraded on ibnmajah:182 | fawazahmed0 |
| Zubair Ali Zai | Goodgraded on tirmidhi:3109 | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
| al-Albani | Daifgraded on tirmidhi:3109 | fawazahmed0 |
Same hadith, other wordings
- Jami at-Tirmidzi 3109يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَيْنَ كَانَ رَبُّنَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَ خَلْقَهُ قَالَ كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ