Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3109
Regarding Surat Hud
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حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ أَخْبَرَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ عَنْ يَعْلَى بْنِ عَطَاءٍ عَنْ وَكِيعِ بْنِ حُدُسٍ عَنْ عَمِّهِ أَبِي رَزِينٍ قَالَ قُلْتُ
يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَيْنَ كَانَ رَبُّنَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَ خَلْقَهُ قَالَ كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Aḥmad b. Manīʿ
- Yazīd b. Hārūn
- Ḥammād b. Salamah
- Yaʿlá b. ʿAṭāʾ
- Wakīʿ b. Ḥudus
- ʿAmmih Abū Razīn
from his uncle Abu Razin who said: "I said: 'O Messenger of Allah! Where was our Lord before He created His creation?' He said: 'He was (above) the clouds - no air was under him, no air was above him, and He created His Throne upon the water.'" Ahmad [bin Mani'] said: "Yazid bin Harun said (regarding) the air - 'It means there was nothing with him."
Notes
قَالَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ قَالَ يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ الْعَمَاءُ أَىْ لَيْسَ مَعَهُ شَيْءٌ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَكَذَا رَوَى حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ وَكِيعُ بْنُ حُدُسٍ وَيَقُولُ شُعْبَةُ وَأَبُو عَوَانَةَ وَهُشَيْمٌ وَكِيعُ بْنُ عُدُسٍ وَهُوَ أَصَحُّ وَأَبُو رَزِينٍ اسْمُهُ لَقِيطُ بْنُ عَامِرٍ قَالَ وَهَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ
machine translationAḥmad b. Manīʿ said: Yazīd b. Hārūn said: "al-ʿamāʾ" means that nothing was with Him. Abū ʿĪsā said: Ḥammād b. Salamah narrated it in this way: "Wakīʿ b. Ḥudus". Shuʿbah, Abū ʿAwānah and Hushaym say "Wakīʿ b. ʿUdus", and that is more correct. Abū Razīn's name is Laqīṭ b. ʿĀmir. He said: This is a good (ḥasan) hadith.
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | Good | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Ahmad Muhammad Shakir | Daif | fawazahmed0 |
| Bashar Awad Maarouf | Hasan | fawazahmed0 |
| al-Albani | Weakin ضعيف سنن الترمذي, p. 3109 | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked |
| al-Tirmidhi | Goodin سنن الترمذي, p. 3109 | hadithunlocked |
What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- al-Tirmidhi
صححه
machine translationHe declared it sound (ṣaḥḥaḥahu).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 3407 - al-Tirmidhi
هذا حديث حسن
machine translationThis is a good (ḥasan) hadith.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 3407
Same hadith, other wordings
- Misykatul Mashabih 5725عَن أبي رزين قَالَ: قلت: يَا رَسُول الله أَيْن رَبُّنَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَ خَلْقَهُ؟ قَالَ: «كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ». رَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيُّ وَقَالَ: قَالَ يَزِيدُ بْ
Other narrations of this report
Sunan Ibn Majah 182Musnad Ahmad 16188Musnad Ahmad 16200Musnad al-Tayalisi 1191
Narrators
- a well-known Companionلَقِيط بْن صَبِرَة العُقَيْلِيصحابي مشهورعن
- acceptable (maqbūl)وَكِيعِ بْنِ حُدُسٍمقبولعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 120 AH, or after itيَعْلَى بْنِ عَطَاءٍثقةعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), devout (ʿābid), the most reliable of people in narrating from Thābit; his memory changed towards the end of his lifed. 167 AH, or 165 AH.حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَثقه عابد ، أثبت الناس في ثابت ، وتغير حفظه بآخرهأخبرنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), meticulous (mutqin), devout (ʿābid).d. 206 AH.يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَثقة متقن عابد .حدثنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 244 AH, or 243 AHأَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍثقة حافظحدثنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AHالتِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.
Commentaries
Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)
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