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Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3109

Regarding Surat Hud

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حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ أَخْبَرَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ عَنْ يَعْلَى بْنِ عَطَاءٍ عَنْ وَكِيعِ بْنِ حُدُسٍ عَنْ عَمِّهِ أَبِي رَزِينٍ قَالَ قُلْتُ

يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَيْنَ كَانَ رَبُّنَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَ خَلْقَهُ قَالَ كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Aḥmad b. Manīʿ
  2. Yazīd b. Hārūn
  3. Ḥammād b. Salamah
  4. Yaʿlá b. ʿAṭāʾ
  5. Wakīʿ b. Ḥudus
  6. ʿAmmih Abū Razīn

from his uncle Abu Razin who said: "I said: 'O Messenger of Allah! Where was our Lord before He created His creation?' He said: 'He was (above) the clouds - no air was under him, no air was above him, and He created His Throne upon the water.'" Ahmad [bin Mani'] said: "Yazid bin Harun said (regarding) the air - 'It means there was nothing with him."

Notes

  • قَالَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ قَالَ يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ الْعَمَاءُ أَىْ لَيْسَ مَعَهُ شَيْءٌ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَكَذَا رَوَى حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ وَكِيعُ بْنُ حُدُسٍ وَيَقُولُ شُعْبَةُ وَأَبُو عَوَانَةَ وَهُشَيْمٌ وَكِيعُ بْنُ عُدُسٍ وَهُوَ أَصَحُّ وَأَبُو رَزِينٍ اسْمُهُ لَقِيطُ بْنُ عَامِرٍ قَالَ وَهَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ

    machine translationAḥmad b. Manīʿ said: Yazīd b. Hārūn said: "al-ʿamāʾ" means that nothing was with Him. Abū ʿĪsā said: Ḥammād b. Salamah narrated it in this way: "Wakīʿ b. Ḥudus". Shuʿbah, Abū ʿAwānah and Hushaym say "Wakīʿ b. ʿUdus", and that is more correct. Abū Razīn's name is Laqīṭ b. ʿĀmir. He said: This is a good (ḥasan) hadith.

Grades by grader

Zubair Ali ZaiGoodfawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com
Ahmad Muhammad ShakirDaiffawazahmed0
Bashar Awad MaaroufHasanfawazahmed0
al-AlbaniWeakin ضعيف سنن الترمذي, p. 3109fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked
al-TirmidhiGoodin سنن الترمذي, p. 3109hadithunlocked

What scholars said about it

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Same hadith, other wordings

  • Misykatul Mashabih 5725عَن أبي رزين قَالَ: قلت: يَا رَسُول الله أَيْن رَبُّنَا قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَ خَلْقَهُ؟ قَالَ: «كَانَ فِي عَمَاءٍ مَا تَحْتَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَمَا فَوْقَهُ هَوَاءٌ وَخَلَقَ عَرْشَهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ». رَوَاهُ التِّرْمِذِيُّ وَقَالَ: قَالَ يَزِيدُ بْ

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. لَقِيط بْن صَبِرَة العُقَيْلِيصحابي مشهور
    عن
  2. acceptable (maqbūl)
    وَكِيعِ بْنِ حُدُسٍمقبول
    عن
  3. trustworthy (thiqah)d. 120 AH, or after it
    يَعْلَى بْنِ عَطَاءٍثقة
    عن
  4. trustworthy (thiqah), devout (ʿābid), the most reliable of people in narrating from Thābit; his memory changed towards the end of his lifed. 167 AH, or 165 AH.
    حَمَّادُ بْنُ سَلَمَةَثقه عابد ، أثبت الناس في ثابت ، وتغير حفظه بآخره
    أخبرنا
  5. Trustworthy (thiqah), meticulous (mutqin), devout (ʿābid).d. 206 AH.
    يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَثقة متقن عابد .
    حدثنا
  6. trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 244 AH, or 243 AH
    أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍثقة حافظ
    حدثنا
  7. trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AH
    التِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ

Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com

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Commentaries

Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)

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