Sunan Ibn Majah 323

Translation

"I saw the Messenger of Allah in his (constructed) toilet, facing towards the Qiblah." (Da'if) (One of the narrators) 'Eisa said: "I told that to Sha'bi, and he said: 'Ibn 'Umar spoke the truth. As for the words of Abu Hurairah, he said: "In the desert do not face the Qiblah nor turn one's back towards it." As for the words of Ibn 'Umar, he said: "In the (constructed) toilet there is no Qiblah so turn in whatever direction you want." Another chain with similar wording.

Notes

• قَالَ عِيسَى فَقُلْتُ ذَلِكَ لِلشَّعْبِيِّ فَقَالَ صَدَقَ ابْنُ عُمَرَ وَصَدَقَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ أَمَّا قَوْلُ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ فَقَالَ فِي الصَّحْرَاءِ لاَ يَسْتَقْبِلِ الْقِبْلَةَ وَلاَ يَسْتَدْبِرْهَا وَأَمَّا قَوْلُ ابْنِ عُمَرَ فَإِنَّ الْكَنِيفَ لَيْسَ فِيهِ قِبْلَةٌ اسْتَقْبِلْ فِيهِ حَيْثُ شِئْتَ قَالَ أَبُو الْحَسَنِ بْنُ سَلَمَةَ وَحَدَّثَنَا أَبُو حَاتِمٍ حَدَّثَنَا عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُوسَى فَذَكَرَ نَحْوَهُ

  machine translationʿĪsā said: I mentioned that to al-Shaʿbī, and he said: Ibn ʿUmar spoke truly and Abū Hurayrah spoke truly. As for the saying of Abū Hurayrah, he said: in the open desert one should neither face the qiblah nor turn his back to it. As for the saying of Ibn ʿUmar, the latrine (kanīf) has no qiblah; face in it whichever way you wish. Abū al-Ḥasan b. Salamah said: Abū Ḥātim narrated to us, ʿUbaydullāh b. Mūsā narrated to us, and he mentioned something similar. Report a problem

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Other narrations of this report

Sahih Muslim 266aSunan Ibn Majah 322Sahih Ibn Hibban 1418al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 13348Sunan al-Daraqutni 169

Narrators

1. 1
   ʿAbdullāh b. ʿUmar b. al-Khaṭṭāb

   One of the Companions who narrated most often, and one of the ʿAbādilah; he was among the people most strict in following the narrations (athar).d. 72 AH, or 73 AH, or 74 AH, also said: 75 AH
   عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِأحد المكثرين من الصحابة والعبادلة ، وكان من أشد الناس اتباعا للأثر
   عن
2. 2
   Nāfiʿ mawlá Ibn ʿUmar

   trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), a well-known jurist (faqīh)d. 116 AH, or 117 AH, or 118 AH, or 119 AH, or 120 AH
   نَافِعٍثقة ثبت فقيه مشهور
   عن
3. 3
   ʿĪsá b. Abī ʿĪsá

   abandoned (matrūk)d. 151 AH
   عِيسَى الْحَنَّاطِمتروك
   عن
4. 4
   ʿUbayd Allāh b. Mūsā

   Trustworthy (thiqah); he leaned towards Shiism (kāna yatashayyaʿ).d. 212 AH or 213 AH or 214 AH
   عُبَيْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مُوسَىثقة ، كان يتشيع
   حدثنا
5. 5
   Muḥammad b. Yaḥyá al-Dhuhlī

   Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), eminentd. Ibn Qāniʿ said: 252 AH, also said: 256 AH, ʿAbd Allāh b. Muḥammad b. Ziyād al-Naysābūrī said: 257 AH, al-Khaṭīb said: all these views are mistaken, Abū Ḥāmid b. al-Sharqī and others said: 258 AH, and this is correct
   مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَىثقة حافظ جليل
   حدثنا
6. 6
   Ibn Mājah

   one of the imams, a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ)d. 273 AH, or: 275 AH
   ابْنُ مَاجَهْأحد الأئمة ، حافظ

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