Sahih Ibn Hibban 3972
✧ A chapter, what is permissible for the prohibited, and what is not permissible.
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أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سَلْمٍ حَدَّثَنَا حَرْمَلَةُ بْنُ يَحْيَى حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ وَهْبٍ أَخْبَرَنِي عَمْرُو بْنُ الْحَارِثِ عَنْ بُكَيْرِ بْنِ الْأَشَجِ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْمُنْكَدِرِ عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ عُثْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّ أَنَّهُ قَالَ
كُنَّا مَعَ طَلْحَةَ بْنِ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ فَأُهْدِيَ لَهُ لَحْمُ صَيْدٍ وَهُمْ مُحْرِمُونَ وَهُوَ رَاقِدٌ فَأَبَيْنَا أَنْ نَأْكُلَهُ حَتَّى إِذَا اسْتَيْقَظَ قُلْنَا صَيْدٌ أُهْدِيَ لَكَ فَقَالَ مَا شَأْنُكُمْ لَمْ تَأْكُلُوا؟ قَالُوا انْتَظَرْنَا حَتَّى نَنْظُرَ مَا تَقُولُ فِيهِ قَالَ «أَكَلْنَا مِثْلَ هَذَا مَعَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ كُلُوا فَأَكَلُوا وَأَكَلَ»
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Chain of narrators
- ʿAbdullāh b. Muḥammad b. Salm
- Ḥarmalah b. Yaḥyá
- Ibn and Hb
- ʿAmr b. al-Ḥārith
- Bukayr b. al-Ashaj
- Muḥammad b. al-Munkadir
- ʿAbd al-Raḥman b. ʿUthmān al-Taymī
✧ We were with Ṭalḥah b. ʿUbayd Allāh, and game meat was gifted to him while they were in a state of iḥrām and he was sleeping. We refused to eat it until he woke up, then we said: “Game was gifted to you.” He said: “What is wrong with you that you did not eat?” They said: “We waited to see what you would say about it.” He said: “We ate the like of this with the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. Eat.” So they ate, and he ate.
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- Dāraquṭnī
يرويه محمد بن المنكدر واختلف عنه فرواه ابن جريج عن محمد بن المنكدر عن معاذ بن عبد الرحمن بن عثمان عن أبيه عن طلحة وتابعه ربيعة بن عمر عن ابن المنكدر ورواه فليج بن سليمان عن ابن المنكدر عن عبد الرحمن بن عثمان عن طلحة ولم يذكر معاذا ورواه أبو حنيفة عن ابن المنكدر عن عثمان بن محمد عن طلحة ورواه الثوري عن ابن المنكدر عن شيخ لم يسمه عن طلحة والصواب حديث ابن جريج وهو حفظ إسناده
machine translationMuḥammad b. al-Munkadir narrates it, and there is disagreement about him. Ibn Jurayj narrated it from Muḥammad b. al-Munkadir, from Muʿādh b. ʿAbd al-Raḥmān b. ʿUthmān, from his father, from Ṭalḥah, and Rabīʿah b. ʿUmar corroborated him from Ibn al-Munkadir. Fulayḥ b. Sulaymān narrated it from Ibn al-Munkadir, from ʿAbd al-Raḥmān b. ʿUthmān, from Ṭalḥah, and he did not mention Muʿādh. Abū Ḥanīfah narrated it from Ibn al-Munkadir, from ʿUthmān b. Muḥammad, from Ṭalḥah. Al-Thawrī narrated it from Ibn al-Munkadir, from a shaykh whom he did not name, from Ṭalḥah. The correct version is the hadith of Ibn Jurayj, for he preserved its chain of transmission.
in صحيح ابن حبان, p. 3977
Narrators
- One of the Ten (promised Paradise)d. 36 AHطَلْحَةُ بْنُ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عُثْمَانَ الْفَيَّاضُاحد العشرةعن
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 73 AHعَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ عُثْمَانَ التَّيْمِيِّصحابيعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), excellent (fāḍil)d. 130 AH, or 131 AHمُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْمُنْكَدِرِثقة فاضلعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 117 AH, or 120 AH, or 122 AH, or 124 AH, or 127 AHبُكَيْرِ بْنِ الْأَشَجِّثقةعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), jurist, ḥāfiẓd. 147 AH, or 148 AH, or 149 AHعَمْرُو بْنُ الْحَارِثِثقة فقيه حافظأخبرني
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), devout (ʿābid)d. 197 AHابْنُ وَهْبٍثقة حافظ ، عابدحدثنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 243 AH, or 244 AHحَرْمَلَةُ بْنُ يَحْيَىصدوقحدثنا
- d. 310-odd AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سَلْمٍأخبرنا
- d. 354 AHابن حبان
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