Musnad Ahmad 346
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حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الْمُنْذِرِ أَسَدٌ بْنُ عُمَرَو أُرَاهُ عَنِ حَجَّاجٍ عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ جَدِّهِ قَالَقَتَلَ رَجُلٌ ابْنَهُ عَمْدًا فَرُفِعَ إِلَى عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ فَجَعَلَ عَلَيْهِ مِائَةً مِنَ الْإِبِلِ ثَلاثِينَ حِقَّةً وَثَلاثِينَ جَذَعَةً وَأَرْبَعِينَ ثَنِيَّةً وَقَالَ لَا يَرِثُ الْقَاتِلُ وَلَوْلا أَنِّي
قَتَلَ رَجُلٌ ابْنَهُ عَمْدًا، فَرُفِعَ إِلَى عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ، فَجَعَلَ عَلَيْهِ مِائَةً مِنَ الْإِبِلِ ثَلَاثِينَ حِقَّةً، وَثَلَاثِينَ جَذَعَةً، وَأَرْبَعِينَ ثَنِيَّةً، وَقَالَ: لَا يَرِثُ الْقَاتِلُ، وَلَوْلَا أَنِّي سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ يَقُولُ: لَا يُقْتَلُ وَالِدٌ بِوَلَدِهِ لَقَتَلْتُكَ.
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Chain of narrators
- Abū al-Mundhir Asad b. ʿUmaraw Urāh
- Ḥajjāj
- ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb
- his father
- Jaddih Qālaqatal a man Āb.ah ʿAmd Farufiʿ
- ʿUmar b. al-Khaṭṭāb Fajaʿal ʿAlayh Miāʾah Min al-Ibil Thalāthīn Ḥiqqah and Thalāthīn Jadhaʿah Waʾarbaʿīn Thaniyyah
- Lā Yarith al-Qātil Walawlā Annī
✧ A man killed his son deliberately. The case was brought to Umar b. al-Khattab, and he imposed on him one hundred camels: thirty hiqqahs, thirty jadha'ahs, and forty thaniyyahs. He said: 'The killer does not inherit. Were it not that I heard the Messenger of Allah ﷺ say: "A parent is not to be killed for his child," I would have killed you.'
Grades by grader
| Shuayb al-Arnaut | Good | hadithunlocked |
|---|---|---|
| Darussalam | A Hasan Hadeeth | sunnah.com |
What scholars said about it
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- Dāraquṭnī
عمرو بن شعيب واختلف عليه فيه فرواه الحجاج بن أرطاة والمثنى بن الصباح ومحمد بن عجلان وعبد الله بن لهيعة عن عمرو بن شعيب عن أبيه عن جده عن عمر عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ورواه يحيى بن سعيد الأنصاري عن عمرو بن شعيب واختلف عنه فرواه إسماعيل بن عياش عن يحيى بن سعيد عن عمرو بن شعيب عن أبيه عن جده ورواه علي بن مسهر عن يحيى بن سعيد عن عمرو بن شعيب عن أبيه عن عمر ورواه مالك بن أنس وحماد بن سلمة وأبو خالد الأحمر وهشيم ويزيد بن هارون وغيرهم عن يحيى بن سعيد عن عمرو بن شعيب مرسلا عن عمر عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وكذلك رواه عبد الكريم أبو أمية عن عمرو بن شعيب مرسلا أيضا عن عمر والمرسل أولى بالصواب
machine translationʿAmr b. Shuʿayb: there is disagreement about him in this report. Al-Ḥajjāj b. Arṭāh, al-Muthannā b. al-Ṣabbāḥ, Muḥammad b. ʿAjlān and ʿAbdullāh b. Lahīʿah narrated it from ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb, from his father, from his grandfather, from ʿUmar, from the Prophet ﷺ. Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd al-Anṣārī narrated it from ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb, and there is disagreement about him as well: Ismāʿīl b. ʿAyyāsh narrated it from Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd, from ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb, from his father, from his grandfather. ʿAlī b. Mushir narrated it from Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd, from ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb, from his father, from ʿUmar. Mālik b. Anas, Ḥammād b. Salamah, Abū Khālid al-Aḥmar, Hushaym, Yazīd b. Hārūn and others narrated it from Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd, from ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb as a mursal report from ʿUmar, from the Prophet ﷺ. Likewise ʿAbd al-Karīm Abū Umayyah narrated it from ʿAmr b. Shuʿayb, also as a mursal report from ʿUmar. The mursal version is more likely to be correct.
in مسند أحمد, p. 346 - Ishbīlī
معلول لا يصح
machine translationIt is defective (maʿlūl) and not authentic.
in مسند أحمد, p. 346 - Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
في إسناده الحجاج بن أرطاة
machine translationIn its chain of transmission is al-Ḥajjāj b. Arṭāh.
in مسند أحمد, p. 346
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- Commander of the Faithful (amīr al-muʾminīn), well-known, of abundant virtues (jamm al-manāqib)d. 23 AH, also said: 24 AHعُمَر بْن الْخَطَّابأمير المؤمنين مشهور جم المناقبقال
- One of the early Companions (sābiqūn), among those who narrated abundantly, and one of the jurist ʿAbdullāhs (al-ʿabādilah)d. 63 AH, or 65 AH, or 68 AH, or 69 AH; also said 67 AH, also said 73 AH, also said 77 AHجَدِّهِأحد السابقين ، المكثرين من الصحابة ، وأحد العبادلة الفقهاءعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq); his hearing from his grandfather is established (thābit)d. between 81 and 90 AHأَبِيهِصدوق ، ثبت سماعه من جدهعن
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 118 AHعَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍصدوقعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq), who made many errors and practiced much concealment (tadlīs)d. 145 AH, or before it, or 147 AHحَجَّاجٍصدوق كثير الخطأ والتدليسعن
- d. 188 AH, also said: 189 AH, also said: 190 AHأَبُو الْمُنْذِرِ أَسَدُ بْنُ عَمْرٍوحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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