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Musnad Ahmad 27083

Asma b. Umays

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حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ طَلْحَةَ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا الْحَكَمُ بْنُ عُتَيْبَةَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ شَدَّادٍ عَنْ أَسْمَاءَ بِنْتِ عُمَيْسٍ قَالَتْ

دَخَلَ عَلَيَّ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ الْيَوْمَ الثَّالِثَ مِنْ قَتْلِ جَعْفَرٍ فَقَالَ: لَا تُحِدِّي بَعْدَ يَوْمِكِ هَذَا

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Yazīd
  2. Muḥammad b. Ṭalḥah
  3. al-Ḥakam b. ʿUtaybah
  4. ʿAbdullāh b. Shaddād
  5. Asmāʾ Bint ʿUmays

✧ The Messenger of Allah ﷺ entered upon me on the third day after Ja'far's killing and said: 'Do not mourn after this day of yours.'

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  • Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī

    أشبه عندي والله أعلم أن هذه كانت امرأة غير أسماء وكانت من جعفر بسبيل قرابة ولم تكن امرأته لأن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال لا تحد امرأة على أحد فوق ثلاث إلا على زوج

    machine translationIt seems more likely to me, and God knows best, that this was a woman other than Asmāʾ, who was a relative of Jaʿfar by kinship and was not his wife, because the Prophet ﷺ said: "A woman is not to mourn for anyone for more than three days, except for a husband."

    in مسند أحمد, p. 27672
  • عبد الرحيم العراقي

    هذا الحديث شاذ مخالف للأحاديث الصحيحة وقد أجمعوا على خلافه

    machine translationThis hadith is irregular (shādhdh), contradicting the authentic hadiths, and they have unanimously agreed on the opposite of it.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 27672
  • Badr al-Dīn al-ʿAynī

    هذا الحديث مخالف للأحاديث الصحيحة في الإحداد فهو شاذ لا عمل عليه للإجماع إلى خلافه

    in مسند أحمد, p. 27672
  • Abū Bakr Aḥmad b. al-Ḥusayn al-Bayhaqī

    لم يثبت سماع عبد الله بن شداد من أسماء

    machine translationIt is not established that ʿAbdullāh b. Shaddād heard from Asmāʾ.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 27672
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  • Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal

    صححه لكنه قال إنه مخالف للأحاديث الصحيحة قال ابن حجر وهو مصير من أحمد إلى أنه يعله بالشذوذ

    machine translationHe deemed it authentic (ṣaḥḥaḥahu), but he said that it contradicts the authentic hadiths. Ibn Ḥajar said: this is a move by Aḥmad to the view that he regards it as flawed by irregularity (shudhūdh).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 27672
  • Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī

    رواه أحمد والطبراني ورجال أحمد رجال الصحيح

    machine translationAḥmad and al-Ṭabarānī narrated it, and the men of Aḥmad's chain are the men of the Ṣaḥīḥ (the sound collections).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 27672
  • Dāraquṭnī

    يرويه الحكم بن عتيبة واختلف عنه فرواه محمد بن طلحة عن الحكم عن عبد الله بن شداد عن أسماء وأرسله معاذ بن معاذ وغندر عن شعبة ورواه الحسن بن عمارة عن الحكم والحسن بن سعد عن عبد الله بن شداد عن أسماء ورواه الحجاج بن أرطاة واختلف عنه فرواه أبو خالد الأحمر عن حجاج عن الحسن بن سعد عن عبد الله بن شداد عن أسماء ابنة عميس قال ذلك عبد الصمد عن حماد وأرسله أسد بن عمرو البجلي عن حجاج عن الحسن بن سعد عن عبد الله بن شداد لم يتجاوز به والمرسل أصح

    machine translationAl-Ḥakam b. ʿUtaybah narrates it, and there is disagreement about him. Muḥammad b. Ṭalḥah narrated it from al-Ḥakam, from ʿAbdullāh b. Shaddād, from Asmāʾ, while Muʿādh b. Muʿādh and Ghundar transmitted it as a mursal report from Shuʿbah. Al-Ḥasan b. ʿUmārah narrated it from al-Ḥakam, and al-Ḥasan b. Saʿd from ʿAbdullāh b. Shaddād, from Asmāʾ. Al-Ḥajjāj b. Arṭāh also narrated it, and there is disagreement about him: Abū Khālid al-Aḥmar narrated it from Ḥajjāj, from al-Ḥasan b. Saʿd, from ʿAbdullāh b. Shaddād, from Asmāʾ bint ʿUmays; ʿAbd al-Ṣamad said that from Ḥammād. Asad b. ʿAmr al-Bajalī transmitted it as mursal from Ḥajjāj, from al-Ḥasan b. Saʿd, from ʿAbdullāh b. Shaddād, not taking it beyond him. The mursal version is more correct (aṣaḥḥ).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 27672

Narrators

  1. Female Companion (ṣaḥābiyyah)d. after ʿAlī b. Abī Ṭālib
    أَسْمَاءُ بِنْتُ عُمَيْسٍصحابية
    عن
  2. Al-ʿIjlī mentioned him among the leading trustworthy (thiqah) Followers, and he was counted among the jurists.d. 81 AH, or 82 AH, or 83 AH
    عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ شَدَّادٍذكره العجلي من كبار التابعين الثقات ، وكان معدودا في الفقهاء
    عن
  3. trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a jurist (faqīh), except that he sometimes practised concealment (tadlīs)d. 113 AH, or 114 AH, or 115; also said 110 AH
    الْحَكَمُ بْنُ عُتَيْبَةَثقة ثبت فقيه ، إلا أنه ربما دلس
    حدثنا
  4. truthful (ṣadūq), has some lapses (awhām), they denied that he heard from his father; because of his young aged. 167 AH
    مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ طَلْحَةَصدوق له أوهام ، وأنكروا سماعه من أبيه ؛ لصغره
    أخبرنا
  5. Trustworthy (thiqah), meticulous (mutqin), devout (ʿābid).d. 206 AH.
    يَزِيدُثقة متقن عابد .
    حدثنا
  6. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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