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Musnad Ahmad 17767

Amr b. al-As from the Prophet ﷺ

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حَدَّثَنَا بَهْزٌ حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي الْحَكَمُ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ ذَكْوَانَ أَبَا صَالِحٍ يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ مَوْلًى لِعَمْرِو بْنِ الْعَاصِ

أَنَّ عَمْرَو بْنَ الْعَاصِ أَرْسَلَهُ إِلَى عَلِيٍّ يَسْتَأْذِنُهُ عَلَى امْرَأَتِهِ أَسْمَاءَ بِنْتِ عُمَيْسٍ، فَأَذِنَ لَهُ، فَتَكَلَّمَا فِي حَاجَةٍ، فَلَمَّا خَرَجَ سَأَلَهُ الْمَوْلَى عَنْ ذَلِكَ، فَقَالَ عَمْرٌو: نَهَانَا رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ أَنْ نَسْتَأْذِنَ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ أَزْوَاجِهِنَّ.

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Bahz
  2. Shuʿbah
  3. al-Ḥakam
  4. Dhakwān Abū Ṣāliḥ Yuḥaddith
  5. a freed slave of Liʿamriw b. al-ʿĀṣ

✧ Amr b. al-As sent him to Ali to ask permission on behalf of his wife, Asma bt. Umays. He permitted him, and they spoke about a need. When he left, the client asked him about that, and Amr said: The Messenger of Allah ﷺ forbade us to ask permission to enter upon women except with the permission of their husbands.

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  • Dāraquṭnī

    أسنده شعبة بسنده ل عمرو بن العاص وهو الصحيح وكذلك رواه الأعمش عن أبي صالح عن عمرو بن العاص ولم يذكر بينهما مولاه والحديث حديث شعبة

    machine translationShuʿbah transmitted it with a connected chain (musnad) to ʿAmr b. al-ʿĀṣ, and this is the sound (ṣaḥīḥ) version. Likewise al-Aʿmash narrated it from Abū Ṣāliḥ from ʿAmr b. al-ʿĀṣ, and he did not mention his freed slave (mawlā) between them. The hadith is the hadith of Shuʿbah.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 17977

Narrators

  1. the well-known Companion (al-ṣaḥābī al-mashhūr)d. Muḥammad b. al-Muthannā and others said: 42 AH. Ibn Yūnus and others said: 43 AH. Abū Sulaymān b. Zabr said: 48 AH. Al-Haytham b. ʿAdī said: 51 AH. Ṭalḥah al-Kūfī said: 58 AH. And from Ḍamrah b. Rabīʿah: 61 AH, or 62 AH. And it is a clear error
    عَمْرُو بْن الْعَاص بْن وَائِل السَّهْمِيّالصحابي المشهور
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  2. مولى لعمرو بن العاص
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  3. trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 101 AH
    ذَكْوَانَ أَبَا صَالِحٍثقة ثبت
    سمعت
  4. trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a jurist (faqīh), except that he sometimes practised concealment (tadlīs)d. 113 AH, or 114 AH, or 115; also said 110 AH
    الْحَكَمُثقة ثبت فقيه ، إلا أنه ربما دلس
    أخبرني
  5. Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), meticulous (mutqin)d. 160 AH
    شُعْبَةُثقة حافظ , متقن
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  6. trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. Ibn Qāniʿ said: 197 AH, ʿUqbah b. Mukram al-ʿAmmī said, and ʿAbd Allāh b. Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal: before 198 AH, others said: after 200 AH
    بَهْزٌثقة ثبت
    حدثنا
  7. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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