Jami' at-Tirmidhi 356
What Has Been Related [About] 'Whoever Visits A People, He Does Not Lead Them In Salat'
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حَدَّثَنَا مَحْمُودُ بْنُ غَيْلاَنَ وَهَنَّادٌ قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ عَنْ أَبَانَ بْنِ يَزِيدَ الْعَطَّارِ عَنْ بُدَيْلِ بْنِ مَيْسَرَةَ الْعُقَيْلِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي عَطِيَّةَ رَجُلٍ مِنْهُمْ قَالَ
كَانَ مَالِكُ بْنُ الْحُوَيْرِثِ يَأْتِينَا فِي مُصَلاَّنَا يَتَحَدَّثُ فَحَضَرَتِ الصَّلاَةُ يَوْمًا فَقُلْنَا لَهُ تَقَدَّمْ فَقَالَ لِيَتَقَدَّمْ بَعْضُكُمْ حَتَّى أُحَدِّثَكُمْ لِمَ لاَ أَتَقَدَّمُ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ يَقُولُ مَنْ زَارَ قَوْمًا فَلاَ يَؤُمَّهُمْ وَلْيَؤُمَّهُمْ رَجُلٌ مِنْهُمْ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Maḥmūd b. Ghaylān and Hannād
- Wakīʿ
- Abān b. Yazīd al-ʿAṭṭār
- Budayl b. Maysarah al-ʿUqaylī
- Abū ʿAṭiyyah a man Minhum
a man among them said: "Malik bin Al-Huwairith came to us in our Musalla to narrate. One day when it was time for Salat, we told him to go ahead (to lead the prayer). He said: 'Let one of you go forward, until I narrate to you why I would not go forward (to lead prayer): I heard Messenger of Allah saying: "Whoever visits a people, then he does not lead them, but a man among them leads them."
Notes
قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ وَالْعَمَلُ عَلَى هَذَا عِنْدَ أَكْثَرِ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ ﷺ وَغَيْرِهِمْ قَالُوا صَاحِبُ الْمَنْزِلِ أَحَقُّ بِالإِمَامَةِ مِنَ الزَّائِرِ وَقَالَ بَعْضُ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ إِذَا أَذِنَ لَهُ فَلاَ بَأْسَ أَنْ يُصَلِّيَ بِهِ وَقَالَ إِسْحَاقُ بِحَدِيثِ مَالِكِ بْنِ الْحُوَيْرِثِ وَشَدَّدَ فِي أَنْ لاَ يُصَلِّيَ أَحَدٌ بِصَاحِبِ الْمَنْزِلِ وَإِنْ أَذِنَ لَهُ صَاحِبُ الْمَنْزِلِ قَالَ وَكَذَلِكَ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ لاَ يُصَلِّي بِهِمْ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ إِذَا زَارَهُمْ يَقُولُ لِيُصَلِّ بِهِمْ رَجُلٌ مِنْهُمْ
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | Good | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Ahmad Muhammad Shakir | Sahih | fawazahmed0 |
| Bashar Awad Maarouf | Hasan Sahih | fawazahmed0 |
| al-Albani | Sahih | fawazahmed0 |
| al-Tirmidhi | Goodin جامع الترمذي, p. 362 | hadithunlocked |
What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- al-Tirmidhi
حسنه مرفوعا
in جامع الترمذي, p. 362 - al-Tirmidhi
حسنه
machine translationHe graded it good (ḥasan).
in جامع الترمذي, p. 362 - ابن اللجام علي بن خلف القرطبي
هذا إسناده ليس بقائم وأبو عطية مجهول يروي عن مجهول
machine translationThis chain of transmission is not sound; Abū ʿAṭiyyah is unknown (majhūl), narrating from someone unknown.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 362 - al-Tirmidhi
هذا حديث حسن
machine translationThis is a good (ḥasan) hadith.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 362
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- al-Tirmidhi
هذا حديث حسن صحيح
machine translationThis is a good and sound (ḥasan ṣaḥīḥ) hadith.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 362 - al-Albani
صحيح دون قصة مالك
in ضعيف سنن الترمذي, p. 356
Same hadith, other wordings
- Sunan Abu Dawud 596كَانَ مَالِكُ بْنُ حُوَيْرِثٍ يَأْتِينَا إِلَى مُصَلاَّنَا هَذَا فَأُقِيمَتِ الصَّلاَةُ فَقُلْنَا لَهُ تَقَدَّمْ فَصَلِّهْ فَقَالَ لَنَا قَدِّمُوا رَجُلاً مِنْكُمْ يُصَلِّي بِكُمْ وَسَأُحَدِّثُكُمْ لِمَ لاَ أُصَلِّي بِكُمْ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ
- Misykatul Mashabih 1120وَعَنْ أَبِي عَطِيَّةَ الْعُقَيْلِيِّ قَالَ: كَانَ مَالِكُ بن الْحُوَيْرِث يَأْتِينَا إِلَى مُصَلَّانَا يَتَحَدَّثُ فَحَضَرَتِ الصَّلَاةُ يَوْمًا قَالَ أَبُو عَطِيَّةَ: فَقُلْنَا لَهُ: تَقَدَّمَ فَصْلُهُ. قَالَ لَنَا قَدِّمُوا رَجُلًا مِنْك
Other narrations of this report
Sunan an-Nasa'i 787Musnad Ahmad 20533al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 17712Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah 6174al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 5407
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. in al-Taqrīb: 74 AH, and in al-Iṣābah: 64 AH, and miswritten in al-Istīʿāb: 94 AHمَالِك بْن الحُوَيْرِث اللَّيْثِيصحابيقال
- acceptable (maqbūl)أَبِي عَطِيَّةَمقبولعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. al-Bukhārī said from ʿAlī b. al-Madīnī: the year 130 AH, al-Dhahabī said, the year: 125 AH, al-Ḥāfiẓ Ibn Ḥajar said, the year: 125 AH or 135 AHبُدَيْلِ بْنِ مَيْسَرَةَ الْعُقَيْلِيِّثقةعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), with some unique narrations (afrād)d. around 160 AHأَبَانَ بْنِ يَزِيدَ الْعَطَّارِثقة له أفرادعن
- Trustworthy, a memorizer, devout (thiqah ḥāfiẓ ʿābid)d. 196 AH, or 197 AH, or 198 AHوَكِيعٌثقة حافظ عابدحدثنا
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 243 AHوَهَنَّادٌثقةحدثنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AHالتِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.
Commentaries
Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Mirʿāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mubārakfūrī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)
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