Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1874

Translation

"Indeed Khamr comes from wheat." [After mentioning this, he said:] and this is more correct than the narration of Ibrahim bin Muhajir (no. 1872). 'Ali bin Al-Madini said: "Yahya bin Sa'eed said: 'Ibrahim bin Al-Muhajir is not strong [in Hadith].'" And it has also been reported through other rotes from Ash-Sha'bi, from An-Nu'man bin Bashir.

Notes

• حَدَّثَنَا بِذَلِكَ، أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ إِدْرِيسَ، عَنْ أَبِي حَيَّانَ التَّيْمِيِّ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ، عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ، إِنَّ مِنَ الْحِنْطَةِ خَمْرًا بِهَذَا. وَهَذَا أَصَحُّ مِنْ حَدِيثِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ بْنِ مُهَاجِرٍ. وَقَالَ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْمَدِينِيِّ قَالَ يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍ لَمْ يَكُنْ إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ مُهَاجِرٍ بِالْقَوِيِّ فِي الْحَدِيثِ. وَقَدْ رُوِيَ مِنْ غَيْرِ وَجْهٍ أَيْضًا عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ عَنِ النُّعْمَانِ بْنِ بَشِيرٍ

  machine translationAḥmad b. Manīʿ narrated that to us: ʿAbdullāh b. Idrīs narrated to us, from Abū Ḥayyān al-Taymī, from al-Shaʿbī, from Ibn ʿUmar, from ʿUmar b. al-Khaṭṭāb: "Indeed, wine comes from wheat," with this (wording). And this is more authentic (aṣaḥḥ) than the hadith of Ibrāhīm b. Muhājir. ʿAlī b. al-Madīnī said: Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd said: Ibrāhīm b. Muhājir was not strong in hadith. It has also been narrated through more than one route from al-Shaʿbī, from al-Nuʿmān b. Bashīr. Report a problem

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• al-Tirmidhi

  هذا أصح من حديث إبراهيم بن مهاجر

  machine translationThis is more authentic (aṣaḥḥ) than the hadith of Ibrāhīm b. Muhājir. Report a problem

  in جامع الترمذي, p. 2005

Other narrations of this report

Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1875Sunan an-Nasa'i 5573Sunan Ibn Majah 3378Muwatta' Malik 42-20Musnad Ahmad 10444Musnad Ahmad 9297

Narrators

1. 1
   ʿUmar b. al-Khaṭṭāb

   Commander of the Faithful (amīr al-muʾminīn), well-known, of abundant virtues (jamm al-manāqib)d. 23 AH, also said: 24 AH
   عُمَر بْن الْخَطَّابأمير المؤمنين مشهور جم المناقب
   عن
2. 2
   ʿAbdullāh b. ʿUmar b. al-Khaṭṭāb

   One of the Companions who narrated most often, and one of the ʿAbādilah; he was among the people most strict in following the narrations (athar).d. 72 AH, or 73 AH, or 74 AH, also said: 75 AH
   ابْنِ عُمَرَأحد المكثرين من الصحابة والعبادلة ، وكان من أشد الناس اتباعا للأثر
   عن
3. 3
   al-Shaʿbī

   Trustworthy (thiqah), well-known, a virtuous jurist (faqīh fāḍil)d. 103 AH, said by al-Haytham b. ʿAdī, and Yaḥyā b. Bukayr, Yaḥyā b. Maʿīn, 104 AH, said by Yaḥyā b. Maʿīn, and Ismāʿīl b. Mujālid, and Abū Nuʿaym, and Muḥammad b. ʿImrān al-Bajalī, and ʿUmar b. Shabīb al-Muslī, and ʿAbd Allāh b. Idrīs, 105 AH, said by Isḥāq b. Yaḥyā, Muḥammad b. ʿAbd Allāh b. Numayr, or: 106 AH, said by ʿAlī b. al-Madīnī, and ʿAmr b. ʿAlī, 107 AH, said by ʿAlī b. al-Madīnī, or: 109 AH, said by Ibn Ḥibbān, 110 AH, said by ʿAlī b. ʿAbd Allāh al-Tamīmī
   الشَّعْبِيِّثقة ، مشهور ، فقيه فاضل
   عن
4. 4
   Abū Ḥayyān

   trustworthy (thiqah), devout (ʿābid)d. 145 AH, also said: 143 AH
   أَبِي حَيَّانَ التَّيْمِيِّثقة عابد
   عن
5. 5
   ʿAbdullāh b. Idrīs

   Trustworthy (thiqah), a jurist (faqīh), devout (ʿābid)d. 191 AH, or 192 AH
   عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ إِدْرِيسَثقة . فقيه عابد
   حدثنا
6. 6
   Aḥmad b. Manīʿ

   trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 244 AH, or 243 AH
   أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍثقة حافظ
   حدثنا
7. 7
   al-Tirmidhī

   trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AH
   التِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ

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