Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3947
About Thaqif And Banu Hanifah
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حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَ وَغَيْرُ وَاحِدٍ قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا وَهْبُ بْنُ جَرِيرٍ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي قَالَ سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ مَلاَذٍ يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ نُمَيْرِ بْنِ أَوْسٍ عَنْ مَالِكِ بْنِ مَسْرُوحٍ عَنْ عَامِرِ بْنِ أَبِي عَامِرٍ الأَشْعَرِيِّ عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ
نِعْمَ الْحَىُّ الأَسْدُ وَالأَشْعَرُونَ لاَ يَفِرُّونَ فِي الْقِتَالِ وَلاَ يَغُلُّونَ هُمْ مِنِّي وَأَنَا مِنْهُمْ قَالَ فَحَدَّثْتُ بِذَلِكَ مُعَاوِيَةَ فَقَالَ لَيْسَ هَكَذَا قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ قَالَ هُمْ مِنِّي وَإِلَىَّ فَقُلْتُ لَيْسَ هَكَذَا
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Ibrāhīm b. Yaʿqūb and Ghayr Wāḥid
- Wahb b. Jarīr
- my father
- ʿAbdullāh b. Malādh Yuḥaddith
- Numayr b. Aws
- Mālik b. Masrūḥ
- ʿĀmir b. Abū ʿĀmir al-Ashʿarī
- his father
- Rasūl Allāh ﷺ
from his father who said: "The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said: 'Blessed are the tribes of Al-Asad and Al-Ash'arun, they flee not from fighting nor do they pilfer the spoils of war. They are from me and I am from them.'" He ('Amir) said: "So I narrated that to Mu'awiyah, and he said: "This is not how the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said it, he said: 'They are from me, and for me.' I said, this is not how my father narrated it to me, rather he narrated to me, saying: 'I heard the Messenger of Allah ﷺ saying: "They are from me and I am from them.'" So he said: 'Then you are more knowledgeable of your father's Hadith.'"
Notes
حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي وَلَكِنَّهُ حَدَّثَنِي قَالَ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ﷺ يَقُولُ هُمْ مِنِّي وَأَنَا مِنْهُمْ قَالَ فَأَنْتَ أَعْلَمُ بِحَدِيثِ أَبِيكَ قَالَ هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ غَرِيبٌ لاَ نَعْرِفُهُ إِلاَّ مِنْ حَدِيثِ وَهْبِ بْنِ جَرِيرٍ وَيُقَالُ الأَسْدُ هُمُ الأَزْدُ
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | Good | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Ahmad Muhammad Shakir | Daif | fawazahmed0 |
| al-Albani | Weakin ضعيف الترمذي, p. 3947 | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked |
What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- عبد الله بن أحمد بن حنبل
هذا من أجود الحديث
machine translationThis is among the best of hadith.
in جامع الترمذي, p. 4336 - Mubarakpūri
قوله هذا حديث غريب وأخرجه أحمد وفي سنده عبد الله بن ملاذ مكان عبد الله بن خلاد
in جامع الترمذي, p. 4336 - al-Tirmidhi
غريب لا نعرفه إلا من حديث وهب بن جرير
in سنن الترمذي, p. 3947
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 60 AH, also said: 59 AHمُعَاوِيَة بْن أَبِي سُفْيَانصحابيعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. during the caliphate of ʿAbd al-Malikعَامِرِ بْنِ أَبِي عَامِرٍ الْأَشْعَرِيِّثقةعن
- acceptable (maqbūl)مَالِكِ بْنِ مَسْرُوحٍمقبولعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 115 AH, or 121 AH, or 122 AHنُمَيْرِ بْنِ أَوْسٍثقةيحدث عن
- unknown (majhūl)عَبْدَ اللهِ بْنَ مَلَاذٍمجهولسمعت
- Trustworthy (thiqah), but there is weakness in his narrations from Qatādah, and he has errors (awhām) when he narrates from memoryd. 170 AH or 177 AH or 179 AH, also said: 167 AHأَبِيثقة ، لكن في حديثه عن قتادة ضعف ، وله أوهام إذا حدث من حفظهحدثنا
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 206 AH, or 207 AHوَهْبُ بْنُ جَرِيرٍثقةحدثنا
- trustworthy (thiqah), ḥāfiẓ, accused of Naṣb (hostility to ʿAlī)d. after 244 AH, or 256 AH, or 259 AHإِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَثقة حافظ ، رمي بالنصبحدثنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 279 AH, in Ikmāl al-Tahdhīb: 275 AHالتِّرْمِذِيُّثقة حافظ
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.
Commentaries
Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
Tuḥfat al-Aḥwadhī (Mubārakpūrī)
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