Musnad Ahmad 17473
✧ Ziyad bin Labid
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حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ حَدَّثَنَا الْأَعْمَشُ عَنْ سَالِمِ بْنِ أَبِي الْجَعْدِ عَنْ زِيَادِ بْنِ لَبِيدٍ قَالَ
ذَكَرَ النَّبِيُّ ﷺ شَيْئًا، فَقَالَ: « وَذَاكَ عِنْدَ أَوَانِ ذَهَابِ الْعِلْمِ » قَالَ: قُلْنَا: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، وَكَيْفَ يَذْهَبُ الْعِلْمُ وَنَحْنُ نَقْرَأُ الْقُرْآنَ وَنُقْرِئُهُ أَبْنَاءَنَا، وَيُقْرِئُهُ أَبْنَاؤُنَا أَبْنَاءَهُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ؟! قَالَ: « ثَكِلَتْكَ أُمُّكَ يَا ابْنَ أُمِّ لَبِيدٍ، إِنْ كُنْتُ لَأَرَاكَ مِنْ أَفْقَهِ رَجُلٍ بِالْمَدِينَةِ، أَوَلَيْسَ هَذِهِ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى يَقْرَءُونَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنْجِيلَ لَا يَنْتَفِعُونَ مِمَّا فِيهِمَا بِشَيْءٍ؟
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Wakīʿ
- al-Aʿmash
- Sālim b. Abū al-Jaʿd
- Ziyād b. Labīd
✧ The Prophet ﷺ mentioned something and said: 'And that is at the time of the departure of knowledge.' We said: 'O Messenger of Allah, how can knowledge depart while we recite the Qur'an and teach it to our children, and our children will teach it to their children until the Day of Resurrection?!' He said: 'May your mother lose you, O Ibn Umm Labid! I considered you one of the most understanding men of Madinah. Do not these Jews and Christians recite the Torah and the Gospel, yet they do not benefit from anything in them?'
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What scholars said about it
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- Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
سالم لم يلق زيادا
in مسند أحمد, p. 17678
Narrators
- Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 41 AH, also said during the caliphate of Abū Bakr al-Ṣiddīq (may Allah be pleased with him)زِيَادُ بْنُ لَبِيدٍ الْبَيَاضِيُّصحابيعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), but he used to narrate with omission of the Companion (irsāl) frequentlyd. 99 AH, Muṭayyan said: 100 AH, also said: 101 AH. Abū Nuʿaym said: 97 AH or 98 AH, and Ibn Ḥibbān said likewise in al-Thiqātسَالِمِ بْنِ أَبِي الْجَعْدِثقة وكان يرسل كثيراعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), knowledgeable in the recitations (qirāʾāt), scrupulous (wariʿ), but he practiced concealment (tadlīs)d. Abū ʿAwānah said, and ʿAbd Allāh b. Dāwūd: 147 AH. Wakīʿ said, and more than one: 148 AH. And al-Khaṭīb considered it correct. Also said: 145 AHالْأَعْمَشُثقة حافظ , عارف بالقراءات ورع لكنه يدلسحدثنا
- Trustworthy, a memorizer, devout (thiqah ḥāfiẓ ʿābid)d. 196 AH, or 197 AH, or 198 AHوَكِيعٌثقة حافظ عابدحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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Commentaries
Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Mirʿāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mubārakfūrī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)
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