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Sunan Ibn Majah 862

Raising the hands when bowing, and when raising the head from bowing

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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْحَمِيدِ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَمْرِو بْنِ عَطَاءٍ عَنْ أَبِي حُمَيْدٍ السَّاعِدِيِّ قَالَ

سَمِعْتُهُ وَهُوَ فِي عَشَرَةٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ أَحَدُهُمْ أَبُو قَتَادَةَ بْنُ رِبْعِيٍّ قَالَ أَنَا أَعْلَمُكُمْ بِصَلاَةِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ كَانَ إِذَا قَامَ فِي الصَّلاَةِ اعْتَدَلَ قَائِمًا وَرَفَعَ يَدَيْهِ حَتَّى يُحَاذِيَ بِهِمَا مَنْكِبَيْهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ اللَّهُ أَكْبَرُ وَإِذَا أَرَادَ أَنْ يَرْكَعَ رَفَعَ يَدَيْهِ حَتَّى يُحَاذِيَ بِهِمَا مَنْكِبَيْهِ فَإِذَا قَالَ سَمِعَ اللَّهُ لِمَنْ حَمِدَهُ رَفَعَ يَدَيْهِ فَاعْتَدَلَ فَإِذَا قَامَ مِنَ الثِّنْتَيْنِ كَبَّرَ وَرَفَعَ يَدَيْهِ حَتَّى يُحَاذِيَ بِهِمَا مَنْكِبَيْهِ كَمَا صَنَعَ حِينَ افْتَتَحَ الصَّلاَةَ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Muḥammad b. Bashhār
  2. Yaḥyá b. Saʿīd
  3. ʿAbd al-Ḥamīd b. Jaʿfar
  4. Muḥammad b. ʿAmr b. ʿAṭāʾ
  5. Abū Ḥumayd al-Sāʿidī

“I heard him when he was among ten of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, one of whom was Abu Qatadah bin Ribʿi, saying: ‘I am the most knowledgeable of you about the prayer of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. When he stood up for prayer, he stood up straight and raised his hands until they were parallel to his shoulders, then he said: Allahu Akbar. When he wanted to bow in Rukuʿ, he raised his hands until they were parallel to his shoulders. When he said Samiʿ Allahu liman hamidah (Allah hears those who praise Him), he raised his hands and stood up straight. When he stood up after two Rakʿah, he said Allahu Akbar and raised his hands until they were parallel to his shoulders, as he did when he started the prayer.’”

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What scholars said about it

In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.

  • M. ibn Ḥibbān al-Bustī

    سمع هذا الخبر محمد بن عمرو بن عطاء عن أبي حميد وسمع من عباس بن سهل عن أبيه قال فالطريقان جميعا محفوظان ومتناهما متباينان وقد يتوهم غير المتبحر في صناعة الحديث أن خبر أبي حميد معلول وليس كذلك

    machine translationMuḥammad b. ʿAmr b. ʿAṭāʾ heard this report from Abū Ḥumayd, and he also heard it from ʿAbbās b. Sahl from his father. He said: So both routes are preserved (maḥfūẓ), and their texts differ. Someone who is not well versed in the craft of hadith may imagine that the report of Abū Ḥumayd is defective, but that is not the case.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911
  • Ibn Ḥazm

    لعل عبد الحميد بن جعفر وهم فيه

    machine translationPerhaps ʿAbd al-Ḥamīd b. Jaʿfar made an error (wahm) in it.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911
  • Taḥāwī

    محمد هذا لم يدرك أبا قتادة على الصحيح

    machine translationThis Muḥammad did not meet Abū Qatādah, according to the sound view.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911
  • Taḥāwī

    أنكر سماع محمد بن عمرو بن عطاء لهذا الحديث من أبي حميد وقال بينهما رجل

    machine translationHe denied that Muḥammad b. ʿAmr b. ʿAṭāʾ heard this hadith from Abū Ḥumayd, and said that there was a man between them.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911
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  • Taḥāwī

    هذا الحديث لم يسمعه محمد بن عمرو بن عطاء من أبي حميد ولا من أحد ذكر مع أبي حميد وبينهما رجل مجهول ومحمد بن عمرو ذكر في الحديث أنه حضر أبا قتادة وسنه لا يحتمل ذلك فإن أبا قتادة قتل قبل ذلك بدهر طويل لأنه قتل مع علي وصلى عليه علي

    machine translationMuḥammad b. ʿAmr b. ʿAṭāʾ did not hear this hadith from Abū Ḥumayd, nor from anyone mentioned along with Abū Ḥumayd; between them there is an unknown (majhūl) man. Muḥammad b. ʿAmr is mentioned in the hadith as having been present with Abū Qatādah, but his age does not allow for that, for Abū Qatādah was killed a long time before that, since he was killed with ʿAlī, and ʿAlī prayed over him.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911
  • Badr al-Dīn al-ʿAynī

    الحديث معلول بجهة أخرى وهو أن محمد بن عمرو ابن عطاء لم يسمع هذا الحديث من أبي حميد

    machine translationThe hadith is defective (maʿlūl) from another angle, namely that Muḥammad b. ʿAmr b. ʿAṭāʾ did not hear this hadith from Abū Ḥumayd.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911
  • Badr al-Dīn al-ʿAynī

    إن احتج الخصم بحديث أبي حميد الساعدي فجوابه أن أبا داود قد أخرجه من وجوه كثيرة أحدها عن أحمد بن حنبل وليس فيه ذكر رفع اليدين عند الركوع والطريق الذي فيه ذلك فهو عن عبد الحميد بن جعفر فهو ضعيف

    machine translationIf the opponent argues from the hadith of Abū Ḥumayd al-Sāʿidī, the answer is that Abū Dāwūd transmitted it through many routes. One of them is from Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal, and it does not mention raising the hands at the bowing. The route in which that is mentioned is from ʿAbd al-Ḥamīd b. Jaʿfar, and he is weak (ḍaʿīf).

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911
  • Abū Ḥatim al-Rāzī

    أنكر سماع محمد بن عمرو بن عطاء لهذا الحديث من أبي حميد وقال بينهما رجل

    machine translationHe denied that Muḥammad b. ʿAmr b. ʿAṭāʾ heard this hadith from Abū Ḥumayd, and said that there was a man between them.

    in سنن ابن ماجه, p. 911

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 60 AH, end of Muʿāwiyah's caliphate, or the beginning of Yazīd's caliphate
    أَبُو حُمَيْدٍ السَّاعِدِيُّصحابي
    عن
  2. trustworthy (thiqah)d. after 120 AH
    مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَمْرِو بْنِ عَطَاءٍثقة
    حدثنا
  3. Truthful (ṣadūq), accused of belief in qadar (free will), and he sometimes erred (wahima)d. 153 AH
    عَبْدُ الْحَمِيدِ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍصدوق رمي بالقدر ، وربما وهم
    حدثنا
  4. trustworthy (thiqah), meticulous (mutqin), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), an imam and exemplar (qudwah)d. 198 AH
    يَحْيَى بْنُ سَعِيدٍثقة متقن حافظ ، إمام قدوة
    حدثنا
  5. trustworthy (thiqah)d. 252 AH
    مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍثقة
    حدثنا
  6. one of the imams, a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ)d. 273 AH, or: 275 AH
    ابْنُ مَاجَهْأحد الأئمة ، حافظ

Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com

Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.

Commentaries

شرح مشكل الآثار
Hāshiyat al-Sindī on Abū Daʿūd

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