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Sahih Ibn Khuzaymah 1175

✧ Groups of chapters on forgetfulness in prayer

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1175 1044 1044 - حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدٌ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ مُسْلِمٍ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ عَمْرٍو قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ الزُّهْرِيَّ عَنْ رَجُلٍ سَهَا فِي صَلَاتِهِ، فَتَكَلَّمَ، فَقَالَ:

أَخْبَرَنِي سَعِيدُ بْنُ الْمُسَيِّبِ، وَأَبُو سَلَمَةَ، وَعُبَيْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللهِ، أَنَّ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ: ثُمَّ ذَكَرَ نَحْوَ حَدِيثِهِمْ فِي قِصَّةِ ذِي الْيَدَيْنِ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Muḥammad
  2. Sulaymān b. ʿAbd al-Raḥman
  3. al-Walīd b. Muslim
  4. ʿAbd al-Raḥman b. ʿAmr
  5. Saʾalt al-Zuhrī
  6. a man Sahā Fī Ṣalātih Fatakallam

✧ Sa'id b. al-Musayyib, Abu Salamah, and Ubayd Allah b. Abd Allah informed me that Abu Hurayrah said: Then he mentioned something similar to their hadith in the story of Dhul-Yadayn.

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  • Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

    اضطرب على الزهري في حديث ذي اليدين اضطرابا أوجب عند أهل العلم بالنقل تركه من روايته خاصة

    machine translationThere was inconsistency (iḍṭirāb) reported from al-Zuhrī in the hadith of Dhū al-Yadayn, such that the people of knowledge of transmission held it necessary to leave it aside from his narration in particular.

    in صحيح ابن خزيمة, p. 1175
  • Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

    اضطرب الزهري في إسناد حديث أبي هريرة في قصة ذي اليدين اضطرابا كثيرا

    machine translationAl-Zuhrī was greatly inconsistent (iḍṭirāb) in the chain of transmission of the hadith of Abū Hurayrah in the story of Dhū al-Yadayn.

    in صحيح ابن خزيمة, p. 1175
  • Muslim

    غلط الزهري في حديثه

    machine translationAl-Zuhrī made a mistake in his hadith.

    in صحيح ابن خزيمة, p. 1175
  • Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

    اضطرب الزهري في حديث ذي اليدين اضطرابا أوجب عند أهل العلم بالنقل تركه من روايته الخاصة

    machine translationAl-Zuhrī was inconsistent (iḍṭirāb) in the hadith of Dhū al-Yadayn, such that the people of knowledge of transmission held it necessary to leave it aside from his own narration.

    in صحيح ابن خزيمة, p. 1175
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  • Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

    فإن قال قائل إن حديث ذي اليدين مضطرب لأن ابن عمر وأبا هريرة يقولان سلم من اثنتين وعمران بن حصين يقول من ثلاث ركعات ومعاوية بن حديج يقول إن المتكلم طلحة بن عبيد الله قيل له ليس اختلافهم في موضع السلام من الصلاة عند أحد من أهل العلم بخلاف يقدح في حديثهم لأن المعنى المراد من الحديث هو البناء بعد الكلام ولا فرق عند أهل العلم بين المسلم من ثلاث أو من اثنتين لأن كل واحد منهما لم يكمل صلاته وأما ما ذكر في حديث معاوية بن حديج من ذكر طلحة بن عبيد الله فممكن أن يكون أيضا طلحة كلمه وغيره وليس في أن يكلمه طلحة وغيره ما يدفع أن ذا اليدين كلمه أيضا فأدى كل ما سمع على حسب ما سمع

    machine translationIf someone says: the hadith of Dhū l-Yadayn is inconsistent (muḍṭarib), because Ibn ʿUmar and Abū Hurayrah say that he gave the salām after two units, while ʿImrān b. Ḥuṣayn says after three units, and Muʿāwiyah b. Ḥudayj says that the one who spoke was Ṭalḥah b. ʿUbaydillāh, it is said to him: their disagreement about the point of the prayer at which the salām was given is not, according to any of the people of knowledge, a disagreement that undermines their hadith, because the meaning intended by the hadith is building on the prayer after speaking. There is no difference among the people of knowledge between one who gave the salām after three or after two, because neither of them had completed his prayer. As for what is mentioned in the hadith of Muʿāwiyah b. Ḥudayj about Ṭalḥah b. ʿUbaydillāh, it is possible that Ṭalḥah and others also spoke to him, and Ṭalḥah and others speaking to him does not rule out that Dhū l-Yadayn also spoke to him. So each one reported what he heard according to what he heard.

    in صحيح ابن خزيمة, p. 1175

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. The illustrious Companion, the memorizer among the Companions (ḥāfiẓ al-ṣaḥābah)d. 57 AH, or: 58 AH, or: 59 AH
    أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ الدَّوْسِيُّالصحابي الجليل ، حافظ الصحابة
    أن
  2. trustworthy (thiqah), a jurist (faqīh), firmly reliable (thabt)d. al-Bukhārī said: died before ʿAlī b. al-Ḥusayn, 94 AH or 95 AH, and Ibn Numayr said, and others: died 98 AH, Ibn al-Madīnī said: 99 AH, Abū Nuʿaym said: that ʿAlī b. al-Ḥusayn died 92 AH
    عبيد الله بن عبد الله بن عتبة بن مسعودثقة فقيه ثبت
    أخبرني
  3. The jurist and memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), whose eminence, precision and reliability are agreed upond. Ḍamrah b. Rabīʿah and others said: 123 AH. The nephew of al-Zuhrī and others said: 124 AH. Ibn Yūnus and others said: 125 AH
    الزُّهْرِيَّالفقيه الحافظ ، متفق على جلالته وإتقانه وثبته
    سألت
  4. trustworthy (thiqah), eminentd. 157 AH, also said: 151 AH, also said: 155 AH, also said: 156 AH
    عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ عَمْرٍوثقة جليل
    حدثنا
  5. Trustworthy (thiqah), but he very often practiced concealment (tadlīs) and levelling (taswiyah).d. 194, or 195 AH, or 196 AH
    الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ مُسْلِمٍثقة ، لكنه كثير التدليس والتسوية
    حدثنا
  6. truthful (ṣadūq), makes mistakes (yukhṭiʾ)d. 232 AH, or 233 AH, also said 234 AH
    سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِصدوق يخطئ
    حدثنا
  7. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), eminentd. Ibn Qāniʿ said: 252 AH, also said: 256 AH, ʿAbd Allāh b. Muḥammad b. Ziyād al-Naysābūrī said: 257 AH, al-Khaṭīb said: all these views are mistaken, Abū Ḥāmid b. al-Sharqī and others said: 258 AH, and this is correct
    مُحَمَّدٌثقة حافظ جليل
    حدثنا
  8. d. 311 AH
    ابن خزيمة

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