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Musnad al-Bazzar 873

✧ among what al-Harith al-A'war b. Abdullah narrated from Ali

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حَدَّثَنَا يُوسُفُ بْنُ مُوسَى قَالَ: نَا عُبَيْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مُوسَى، عَنْ إِسْرَائِيلَ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنِ الْحَارِثِ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ:

" لَوْ كُنْتُ مُؤَمِّرًا أَحَدًا دُونَ مَشُورَةٍ لَأَمَّرْتُ ابْنَ أُمِّ عَبْدٍ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Yūsuf b. Mūsá
  2. ʿUbaydullāh b. Mūsá
  3. Isrāʾīl
  4. Abū Isḥāq
  5. al-Ḥārith
  6. ʿAlī
  7. Rasūl Allāh ﷺ

✧ If I were to appoint anyone as a commander without consultation, I would appoint Ibn Umm 'Abd.

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  • Dāraquṭnī

    فقال رواه منصور بن المعتمر وسفيان الثوري عن أبي إسحاق واختلف عن منصور فرواه القاسم بن معن عن منصور عن أبي إسحاق عن عاصم عن علي وقيل عن أبي إسحاق عن حارثة بن مضرب عن علي وخالفه زهير فرواه عن أبي إسحاق عن الحارث عن علي وكذلك رواه الثوري عن أبي إسحاق عن الحارث عن علي ولا نعلم حدث به عن أبي إسحاق كذلك غيرهما ورواه مالك بن مغول عن أبي إسحاق مرسلا عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وقال عبد العزيز بن أبان عن سفيان عن منصور عن أبي إسحاق عن الحارث عن علي

    machine translationHe said: It was narrated by Manṣūr b. al-Muʿtamir and Sufyān al-Thawrī from Abū Isḥāq. There is disagreement concerning Manṣūr: al-Qāsim b. Maʿn narrated it from Manṣūr, from Abū Isḥāq, from ʿĀṣim, from ʿAlī. And it was said: from Abū Isḥāq, from Ḥārithah b. Muḍarrib, from ʿAlī. Zuhayr differed from him and narrated it from Abū Isḥāq, from al-Ḥārith, from ʿAlī. Likewise al-Thawrī narrated it from Abū Isḥāq, from al-Ḥārith, from ʿAlī. And we do not know anyone other than the two of them who narrated it from Abū Isḥāq in this way. Mālik b. Mighwal narrated it from Abū Isḥāq as a mursal report from the Prophet ﷺ. And ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz b. Abān said: from Sufyān, from Manṣūr, from Abū Isḥāq, from al-Ḥārith, from ʿAlī.

    in مسند البزار, p. 873

Other narrations of this report

Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3808Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3809

Narrators

  1. ʿAlī b. Abū Ṭālib
    One of the ten (promised Paradise)d. 40 AH
    عَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍأحد العشرة
    عن
  2. al-Ḥārith al-Aʿwar
    al-Shaʿbī called him a liar in his opinions, and he was accused of Rāfiḍism, and there is weakness in his hadithd. 65 AH
    الْحَارِثِكذبه الشعبي في رأيه ورمي بالرفض ، وفي حديثه ضعف
    عن
  3. Abū Isḥāq al-Sabīʿī
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a prolific narrator (mukthir), devout (ʿābid); his memory became confused (ikhtalaṭa) at the end of his lifed. Ibn ʿUyaynah said 126 AH, Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd said 127 AH, Abū Nuʿaym said 128 AH, ʿAmr b. ʿAlī said 129 AH, Ibn Maʿīn said 132 AH
    أَبِي إِسْحَاقَثقة مكثر عابد , اختلط بآخره
    عن
  4. Isrāʾīl
    Trustworthy (thiqah); he was criticized without any valid proofd. Abū Nuʿaym said, and Qaʿnab b. al-Muḥarrar: 160 AH. Hārūn b. Ḥātim said, from Dubays: 161 AH. Khalīfah b. Khayyāṭ said, and Muḥammad b. Saʿd: 162 AH, Mughulṭāy said: 164 AH
    إِسْرَائِيلَثقة ، تُكلم فيه بلا حجة
    عن
  5. ʿUbayd Allāh b. Mūsā
    Trustworthy (thiqah); he leaned towards Shiism (kāna yatashayyaʿ).d. 212 AH or 213 AH or 214 AH
    عُبَيْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مُوسَىثقة ، كان يتشيع
    نا
  6. Yūsuf b. Mūsā
    truthful (ṣadūq)d. 253 AH
    يُوسُفُ بْنُ مُوسَىصدوق
    حدثنا
  7. al-Bazzār
    d. 291 AH or 292 AH or 294 AH
    البزار

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