Musnad al-Bazzar 516
✧ Amr b. Hurayth on the authority of Ali
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حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الْجَوْهَرِيُّ، قَالَ: نَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ النُّعْمَانِ الْجُعْفِيُّ أَبُو إِسْحَاقَ، قَالَ: سَمِعْتُ الرَّبِيعَ بْنَ سَعِيدٍ الْجُعْفِيَّ، قَالَ: نَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ سَرِيعٍ، مَوْلَى عَمْرِو بْنِ حُرَيْثٍ، قَالَ:
خَرَجْنَا مَعَ أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلِيِّ بْنِ أَبِي طَالِبٍ ؓ فِي يَوْمِ عِيدٍ، فَسَأَلَهُ قَوْمٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِهِ، فَقَالُوا: يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ، مَا تَقُولُ فِي الصَّلَاةِ يَوْمَ الْعِيدِ قَبْلَ الْإِمَامِ وَبَعْدَهُ ؟ قَالَ: فَلَمْ يَرُدَّ عَلَيْهِمْ شَيْئًا، ثُمَّ جَاءَ قَوْمٌ آخَرُ، فَسَأَلُوهُ كَمَا سَأَلُوهُ الَّذِينَ كَانُوا قَبْلَهُمْ، فَمَا رَدَّ عَلَيْهِمْ، فَلَمَّا انْتَهَيْنَا إِلَى الصَّلَاةِ صَلَّى بِالنَّاسِ، فَكَبَّرَ سَبْعًا وَخَمْسًا، ثُمَّ خَطَبَ النَّاسَ، ثُمَّ نَزَلَ فَرَكِبَ، فَقَالُوا: يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ، هَؤُلَاءِ قَوْمٌ يُصَلُّونَ، قَالَ: فَمَا عَسَيْتَ أَنْ أَصْنَعَ سَأَلْتُمُونِي عَنِ السُّنَّةِ، فَإِنَّ النَّبِيَّ ﷺ لَمْ يُصَلِّ قَبْلَهَا وَلَا بَعْدَهَا، فَمَنْ شَاءَ فَعَلَ، وَمَنْ شَاءَ تَرَكَ، أَتَرَوْنِي أَمْنَعُ أَقْوَامًا يُصَلُّونَ فَأَكُونَ بِمَنْزِلَةِ مَنْ يَمْنَعُ عَبْدًا أَنْ يُصَلِّيَ
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Chain of narrators
- Ibrāhīm b. Saʿīd al-Jawharī
- Ibrāhīm b. Muḥammad b. al-Nuʿmān al-Juʿfī Abū Isḥāq
- al-Rabīʿ b. Saʿīd al-Juʿfī
- al-Walīd b. Sarīʿ a freed slave of ʿAmr b. Ḥurayth
✧ We went out with the Commander of the Faithful, Ali b. Abi Talib ؓ, on a day of Eid. Some of his companions asked him: 'O Commander of the Faithful, what do you say about praying on the day of Eid before the imam and after him?' He said: 'He did not answer them anything.' Then another group came and asked him as the previous ones had asked, and he did not answer them. When we reached the prayer, he led the people in prayer and said the takbir seven times and five times, then he gave a sermon to the people, then he descended and mounted. They said: 'O Commander of the Faithful, these are people praying.' He said: 'What could I do? You asked me about the sunnah. The Prophet ﷺ did not pray before it or after it. Whoever wishes may do so, and whoever wishes may leave it. Do you think I should prevent people from praying and thus be like one who prevents a servant from praying?'
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- Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī
وفيه من لم أعرفه
machine translationIt contains someone whom I do not know.
in مسند البزار, p. 516
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- One of the ten (promised Paradise)d. 40 AHعَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍأحد العشرةفي حكم السماع
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. between 111 and 120 AHالْوَلِيدُ بْنُ سَرِيعٍ ، مَوْلَى عَمْرِو بْنِ حُرَيْثٍصدوقنا
- d. between 141 and 150 AHالرَّبِيعَ بْنَ سَعِيدٍ الْجُعْفِيَّسمعت
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 231 AH, or 232 AHإِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ النُّعْمَانِ الْجُعْفِيُّ أَبُو إِسْحَاقَثقة حافظنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ); he was criticized without valid proof.d. 247 AH, or 249 AH, or around 250 AH, or 253 AH, or 255 AH, or 256 AH, also said: 244 AHإِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الْجَوْهَرِيُّثقة حافظ ، تُكُلِّم فيه بلا حجةحدثنا
- d. 291 AH or 292 AH or 294 AHالبزار
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