Musnad al-Bazzar 5144
✧ The Meccans, from b. 'Abbas
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وَحَدَّثَنَا الْفَضْلُ بْنُ سَهْلٍ، قَالَ: نَا يُونُسُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، قَالَ: نَا الْمُعْتَمِرُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ: كَتَبَ لَيْثٌ إِلَى سُلَيْمَانَ بْنِ طَرْخَانَ: حَدَّثَنِي حَبِيبُ بْنُ أَبِي ثَابِتٍ عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُبَيْرٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ ؓ قَالَ:
قِيلَ: يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، أَوْ ذَكَرُوا عَنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ نَحْوَ هَذَا: يَا نَبِيَّ اللهِ، أَرَأَيْتَ مَا نَعْمَلُ ؟ أَشَيْئًا نَبْتَدِيهِ ؟ أَمْ شَيْئًا قَدْ فُرِغَ مِنْهُ ؟ فَقَالَ: لَا، بَلْ شَيْءٌ قَدْ فُرِغَ مِنْهُ. قَالَ: فَقَالَ الْقَوْمُ بَعْضُهُمْ لِبَعْضٍ: فَالْجِدُّ إِذًا
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Chain of narrators
- al-Faḍl b. Sahl
- Yūnus b. Muḥammad
- al-Muʿtamir b. Sulaymān
- his father
- Katab Layth
- Sulaymān b. Ṭarkhān
- Ḥabīb b. Abū Thābit
- Saʿīd b. Jubayr
- Ibn ʿAbbās
✧ It was said: O Messenger of God, or they mentioned from the Messenger of God ﷺ something like this: O Prophet of God, what do you think about what we do? Is it something we initiate, or something already decreed? He said: No, rather it is something already decreed. He said: Then the people said to one another: Then striving is of no avail.
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- One of the Companions who narrated most prolifically (mukthirūn).d. 65 AH, or 67 AH, or 68 AH, also said: 69 AH, also said: 70 AH; also said: 73 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عَبَّاسٍأحد المكثرين من الصحابةعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a jurist (faqīh); his narration from ʿĀʾishah, Abū Mūsā and the like is mursald. 95 AH, from al-Fallās: 94 AHسَعِيدِ بْنِ جُبَيْرٍثقة ثبت فقيه ، وروايته عن عائشة وأبي موسى ونحوهما مرسلةعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), an eminent jurist; he often narrated mursal reports (irsāl) and practiced concealment (tadlīs).d. 119 AH, or 122 AHحَبِيبُ بْنُ أَبِي ثَابِتٍثقة فقيه جليل ، وكان كثير الإرسال والتدليسحدثني
- Truthful (ṣadūq), his memory became badly confused (ikhtilāṭ), his hadith could not be distinguished, so he was abandonedd. 138 AH, or 141 AH, or 142 AH, or 143 AH, or 148 AHلَيْثٌصدوق اختلط جدا ، ولم يتميز حديثه فترككتب
- trustworthy (thiqah), devout (ʿābid)d. 143 AH, or 144 AHسُلَيْمَانَ بْنِ طَرْخَانَثقة عابدعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 186 AH, or: 187 AH, or: 188 AHالْمُعْتَمِرُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَثقةنا
- trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 207 AH, or 208 AHيُونُسُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍثقة ثبتنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 255 AHالْفَضْلُ بْنُ سَهْلٍصدوقحدثنا
- d. 291 AH or 292 AH or 294 AHالبزار
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
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