Musnad al-Bazzar 481
✧ Talha b. Ubayd Allah from Ali
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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عُمَرَ الْكِنْدِيُّ، قَالَ: نَا هَانِي بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، قَالَ: نَا الْحَجَّاجُ بْنُ أَرْطَاةَ، عَنْ عُثْمَانَ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ مَوْهَبٍ، عَنْ مُوسَى بْنِ طَلْحَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ:
أُتِيَ عُمَرُ بِمَالٍ فَقَسَمَهُ بَيْنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ، فَفَضَلَتْ مِنْهُ فَضْلَةٌ، فَاسْتَشَارَ فِيهَا، فَقَالُوا لَهُ: لَوْ تَرَكْتَهُ لِنَائِبَةٍ إِنْ كَانَتْ، قَالَ: وَعَلِيٌّ لَا يَتَكَلَّمُ، فَقَالَ: مَا لَكَ يَا أَبَا الْحَسَنِ لَا تَتَكَلَّمُ ؟ قَالَ: قَدْ أَخْبَرَكَ الْقَوْمُ، قَالَ عُمَرُ: لَتَكَلَّمَنَّ، فَقَالَ: إِنَّ اللهَ قَدْ فَرَغَ مِنْ قِسْمَةِ هَذَا الْمَالِ، وَذَكَّرَهُ حَدِيثَ مَالِ الْبَحْرَيْنِ حِينَ جَاءَ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ ﷺ وَحَالَ بَيْنَهُ وَبَيْنَ أَنْ يَقْسِمَهُ اللَّيْلُ، فَصَلَّى الصَّلَوَاتِ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ، فَلَقَدْ رَأَيْتُ ذَلِكَ فِي وَجْهِ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ حَتَّى فَرَغَ مِنْهُ، فَقَالَ: " لَا جَرَمَ لَتَقْسِمَنَّهُ، فَقَسَمَهُ عَلِيٌّ، قَالَ طَلْحَةُ: فَأَصَابَنِي مِنْهُ ثَمَانُمِائَةُ دِرْهَمٍ
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Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. ʿUmar al-Kindī
- Hānī b. Saʿīd
- al-Ḥajjāj b. Arṭāh
- ʿUthmān b. ʿAbdullāh b. Mawhab
- Mūsá b. Ṭalḥah
- his father
✧ Umar was brought wealth and divided it among the Muslims; some of it remained. He consulted about it, and they said: "If only you would leave it for a contingency that may occur." Ali remained silent. He said: "What is wrong with you, Abu al-Hasan, that you do not speak?" He said: "The people have told you." Umar said: "You must speak." He said: "God has already determined the division of this wealth," and he reminded him of the story of the wealth of Bahrain when it came to the Prophet ﷺ and night fell before he could divide it. He prayed the prayers in the mosque, and I saw that in the face of the Messenger of God ﷺ until he finished. Then he said: "By all means, you shall divide it," and Ali divided it. Talha said: I received eight hundred dirhams from it.
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- Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī
فيه الحجاج بن أرطاة وهو مدلس
in مسند البزار, p. 481
Narrators
- One of the ten (promised Paradise)d. 40 AHعَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍأحد العشرةفي حكم السماع
- One of the Ten (promised Paradise)d. 36 AHأَبِيهِاحد العشرةعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), eminentd. 103 AH, or: 104 AH, or: 106 AHمُوسَى بْنِ طَلْحَةَثقة جليلعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. after 120 AHعُثْمَانَ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ مَوْهَبٍثقةعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq), who made many errors and practiced much concealment (tadlīs)d. 145 AH, or before it, or 147 AHالْحَجَّاجُ بْنُ أَرْطَاةَصدوق كثير الخطأ والتدليسنا
- هاني بن سعيدنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 256 AHمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عُمَرَ الْكِنْدِيُّصدوقحدثنا
- d. 291 AH or 292 AH or 294 AHالبزار
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