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al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 7569

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وَأَخْبَرَنَا ) أَبُو سَعِيدِ بْنُ أَبِي عَمْرٍو، ثَنَا أَبُو الْعَبَّاسِ: مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَ، ثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ عَفَّانَ، ثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ آدَمَ، ثَنَا عَبْدُ السَّلَامِ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، عَنْ عَطَاءِ بْنِ السَّائِبِ، قَالَ:

أَرَادَ مُوسَى بْنُ الْمُغِيرَةِ أَنْ يَأْخُذَ مِنْ خُضَرِ أَرْضِ مُوسَى بْنِ طَلْحَةَ، فَقَالَ لَهُ مُوسَى بْنُ طَلْحَةَ: إِنَّهُ لَيْسَ فِي الْخُضَرِ شَيْءٌ، وَرَوَاهُ عَنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ قَالَ: فَكَتَبُوا بِذَلِكَ إِلَى الْحَجَّاجِ، فَكَتَبَ الْحَجَّاجُ: أَنَّ مُوسَى بْنَ طَلْحَةَ أَعْلَمُ مِنْ مُوسَى بْنِ الْمُغِيرَةِ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Abū Saʿīd b. Abū ʿAmr
  2. Abū al-ʿAbbās Muḥammad b. Yaʿqūb
  3. al-Ḥasan b. ʿAlī b. ʿAffān
  4. Yaḥyá b. Ādam
  5. ʿAbd al-Salām b. Ḥarb
  6. ʿAṭāʾ b. al-Sāʾib

Machine translation, not reviewed

Mūsā b. al-Mughīrah wanted to take [zakāh] from the vegetables of the land of Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah. Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah said to him: "There is nothing due on vegetables," and he narrated it from the Messenger of Allāh ﷺ. He said: So they wrote about that to al-Ḥajjāj, and al-Ḥajjāj wrote back: "Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah knows better than Mūsā b. al-Mughīrah."

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  • al-Tirmidhi

    لا يصح فيه شيء إلا مرسل موسى بن طلحة

    machine translationNothing authentic (ṣaḥīḥ) is reported on this subject except the mursal report of Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah.

    in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 7569
  • al-Tirmidhi

    قال البزار وروى جماعة عن موسى بن طلحة عن النبي عليه السلام مرسلا ولا نعلم أحدا قال عن أبيه إلا الحارث بن نبهان عن عطاء ولا نعلم لعطاء عن موسى بن طلحة عن أبيه إلا هذا الحديث

    machine translationAl-Bazzār said: A group narrated it from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from the Prophet ﷺ as a mursal report (with the Companion omitted). We do not know anyone who said "from his father" except al-Ḥārith b. Nabhān, from ʿAṭāʾ, and we do not know of any report of ʿAṭāʾ from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from his father except this hadith.

    in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 7569
  • Dāraquṭnī

    اختلف فيه عن موسى بن طلحة فروي عن عطاء بن السائب فقال الحارث بن نبهان عن عطاء عن موسى بن طلحة وقال خالد الواسطي عن عطاء عن موسى بن طلحة مرسلا أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وروي عن الأعمش عن موسى بن طلحة عن أبيه ورواه الحكم بن عتيبة وعبد الملك بن عمير وعمرو بن عثمان بن موهب عن موسى بن طلحة عن معاذ بن جبل وقيل عن موسى بن طلحة عن عمر وقيل عن موسى بن طلحة عن أنس وقيل عن موسى بن طلحة مرسل وأصحها كلها المرسل

    machine translationThere is disagreement about it from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah. It was narrated from ʿAṭāʾ b. al-Sāʾib: al-Ḥārith b. Nabhān said, from ʿAṭāʾ, from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah; and Khālid al-Wāsiṭī said, from ʿAṭāʾ, from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah, as a mursal report, that the Prophet ﷺ... It was also narrated from al-Aʿmash, from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah, from his father. Al-Ḥakam b. ʿUtaybah, ʿAbd al-Malik b. ʿUmayr and ʿAmr b. ʿUthmān b. Mawhib narrated it from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from Muʿādh b. Jabal. It was also said: from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from ʿUmar; and it was said: from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from Anas; and it was said: from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah as mursal. The soundest of all of these is the mursal.

    in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 7569

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. trustworthy (thiqah), eminentd. 103 AH, or: 104 AH, or: 106 AH
    مُوسَى بْنُ طَلْحَةَ بْنِ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ التَّيْمِيُّثقة جليل
    قال له
  2. Truthful (ṣadūq), became confused (ikhtalaṭa)d. 133 AH, or 134 AH, or 136 AH, or 137 AH
    عَطَاءِ بْنِ السَّائِبِصدوق اختلط
    عن
  3. trustworthy (thiqah), ḥāfiẓ, has denounced reports (manākīr)d. 186 AH, or 187 AH
    عَبْدُ السَّلَامِ بْنُ حَرْبٍثقة حافظ ، له مناكير
    حدثنا
  4. trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), virtuous (fāḍil)d. 203 AH
    يَحْيَى بْنُ آدَمَثقة حافظ فاضل
    حدثنا
  5. truthful (ṣadūq)d. 270 AH
    الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ عَفَّانَصدوق
    حدثنا
  6. أَبُو الْعَبَّاسِ : مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَ
    حدثنا
  7. أَبُو سَعِيدِ بْنُ أَبِي عَمْرٍو
    أخبرنا
  8. d. 458 AH
    البيهقي

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