al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 7569
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وَأَخْبَرَنَا ) أَبُو سَعِيدِ بْنُ أَبِي عَمْرٍو، ثَنَا أَبُو الْعَبَّاسِ: مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَ، ثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ عَفَّانَ، ثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ آدَمَ، ثَنَا عَبْدُ السَّلَامِ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، عَنْ عَطَاءِ بْنِ السَّائِبِ، قَالَ:
أَرَادَ مُوسَى بْنُ الْمُغِيرَةِ أَنْ يَأْخُذَ مِنْ خُضَرِ أَرْضِ مُوسَى بْنِ طَلْحَةَ، فَقَالَ لَهُ مُوسَى بْنُ طَلْحَةَ: إِنَّهُ لَيْسَ فِي الْخُضَرِ شَيْءٌ، وَرَوَاهُ عَنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ قَالَ: فَكَتَبُوا بِذَلِكَ إِلَى الْحَجَّاجِ، فَكَتَبَ الْحَجَّاجُ: أَنَّ مُوسَى بْنَ طَلْحَةَ أَعْلَمُ مِنْ مُوسَى بْنِ الْمُغِيرَةِ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Abū Saʿīd b. Abū ʿAmr
- Abū al-ʿAbbās Muḥammad b. Yaʿqūb
- al-Ḥasan b. ʿAlī b. ʿAffān
- Yaḥyá b. Ādam
- ʿAbd al-Salām b. Ḥarb
- ʿAṭāʾ b. al-Sāʾib
Machine translation, not reviewed
Mūsā b. al-Mughīrah wanted to take [zakāh] from the vegetables of the land of Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah. Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah said to him: "There is nothing due on vegetables," and he narrated it from the Messenger of Allāh ﷺ. He said: So they wrote about that to al-Ḥajjāj, and al-Ḥajjāj wrote back: "Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah knows better than Mūsā b. al-Mughīrah."
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- al-Tirmidhi
لا يصح فيه شيء إلا مرسل موسى بن طلحة
machine translationNothing authentic (ṣaḥīḥ) is reported on this subject except the mursal report of Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah.
in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 7569 - al-Tirmidhi
قال البزار وروى جماعة عن موسى بن طلحة عن النبي عليه السلام مرسلا ولا نعلم أحدا قال عن أبيه إلا الحارث بن نبهان عن عطاء ولا نعلم لعطاء عن موسى بن طلحة عن أبيه إلا هذا الحديث
machine translationAl-Bazzār said: A group narrated it from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from the Prophet ﷺ as a mursal report (with the Companion omitted). We do not know anyone who said "from his father" except al-Ḥārith b. Nabhān, from ʿAṭāʾ, and we do not know of any report of ʿAṭāʾ from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from his father except this hadith.
in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 7569 - Dāraquṭnī
اختلف فيه عن موسى بن طلحة فروي عن عطاء بن السائب فقال الحارث بن نبهان عن عطاء عن موسى بن طلحة وقال خالد الواسطي عن عطاء عن موسى بن طلحة مرسلا أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وروي عن الأعمش عن موسى بن طلحة عن أبيه ورواه الحكم بن عتيبة وعبد الملك بن عمير وعمرو بن عثمان بن موهب عن موسى بن طلحة عن معاذ بن جبل وقيل عن موسى بن طلحة عن عمر وقيل عن موسى بن طلحة عن أنس وقيل عن موسى بن طلحة مرسل وأصحها كلها المرسل
machine translationThere is disagreement about it from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah. It was narrated from ʿAṭāʾ b. al-Sāʾib: al-Ḥārith b. Nabhān said, from ʿAṭāʾ, from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah; and Khālid al-Wāsiṭī said, from ʿAṭāʾ, from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah, as a mursal report, that the Prophet ﷺ... It was also narrated from al-Aʿmash, from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah, from his father. Al-Ḥakam b. ʿUtaybah, ʿAbd al-Malik b. ʿUmayr and ʿAmr b. ʿUthmān b. Mawhib narrated it from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from Muʿādh b. Jabal. It was also said: from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from ʿUmar; and it was said: from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah from Anas; and it was said: from Mūsā b. Ṭalḥah as mursal. The soundest of all of these is the mursal.
in سنن البيهقي الكبرى, p. 7569
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- trustworthy (thiqah), eminentd. 103 AH, or: 104 AH, or: 106 AHمُوسَى بْنُ طَلْحَةَ بْنِ عُبَيْدِ اللهِ التَّيْمِيُّثقة جليلقال له
- Truthful (ṣadūq), became confused (ikhtalaṭa)d. 133 AH, or 134 AH, or 136 AH, or 137 AHعَطَاءِ بْنِ السَّائِبِصدوق اختلطعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), ḥāfiẓ, has denounced reports (manākīr)d. 186 AH, or 187 AHعَبْدُ السَّلَامِ بْنُ حَرْبٍثقة حافظ ، له مناكيرحدثنا
- trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), virtuous (fāḍil)d. 203 AHيَحْيَى بْنُ آدَمَثقة حافظ فاضلحدثنا
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. 270 AHالْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ عَفَّانَصدوقحدثنا
- d. 346 AHأَبُو الْعَبَّاسِ : مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَعْقُوبَحدثنا
- d. 421 AHأَبُو سَعِيدِ بْنُ أَبِي عَمْرٍوأخبرنا
- d. 458 AHالبيهقي
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