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Musnad Ahmad 852

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حَدَّثَنَا حَسَنُ بْنُ مُوسَى حَدَّثَنَا زُهَيْرٌ حَدَّثَنَا مَنْصُورُ بْنُ الْمُعْتَمِرِ عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ عَنْ الْحَارِثِ عَنْ عَلِيٍّ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ

لَوْ كُنْتُ مُؤَمِّرًا أَحَدًا مِنْ أُمَّتِي عَنْ غَيْرِ مَشُورَةٍ مِنْهُمْ لَأَمَّرْتُ عَلَيْهِمُ ابْنَ أُمِّ عَبْدٍ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Ḥasan b. Mūsá
  2. Zuhayr
  3. Manṣūr b. al-Muʿtamir
  4. Abū Isḥāq
  5. al-Ḥārith
  6. ʿAlī
  7. Rasūl Allāh ﷺ

✧ If I were to appoint anyone of my Ummah as a leader without consultation from them, I would have appointed over them Ibn Umm 'Abd.

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What scholars said about it

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  • Dāraquṭnī

    فقال رواه منصور بن المعتمر وسفيان الثوري عن أبي إسحاق واختلف عن منصور فرواه القاسم بن معن عن منصور عن أبي إسحاق عن عاصم عن علي وقيل عن أبي إسحاق عن حارثة بن مضرب عن علي وخالفه زهير فرواه عن أبي إسحاق عن الحارث عن علي وكذلك رواه الثوري عن أبي إسحاق عن الحارث عن علي ولا نعلم حدث به عن أبي إسحاق كذلك غيرهما ورواه مالك بن مغول عن أبي إسحاق مرسلا عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وقال عبد العزيز بن أبان عن سفيان عن منصور عن أبي إسحاق عن الحارث عن علي

    machine translationHe said: It was narrated by Manṣūr b. al-Muʿtamir and Sufyān al-Thawrī from Abū Isḥāq. There is disagreement concerning Manṣūr: al-Qāsim b. Maʿn narrated it from Manṣūr, from Abū Isḥāq, from ʿĀṣim, from ʿAlī. And it was said: from Abū Isḥāq, from Ḥārithah b. Muḍarrib, from ʿAlī. Zuhayr differed from him and narrated it from Abū Isḥāq, from al-Ḥārith, from ʿAlī. Likewise al-Thawrī narrated it from Abū Isḥāq, from al-Ḥārith, from ʿAlī. And we do not know anyone other than the two of them who narrated it from Abū Isḥāq in this way. Mālik b. Mighwal narrated it from Abū Isḥāq as a mursal report from the Prophet ﷺ. And ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz b. Abān said: from Sufyān, from Manṣūr, from Abū Isḥāq, from al-Ḥārith, from ʿAlī.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 859

Other narrations of this report

Jami' at-Tirmidhi 3808

Narrators

  1. ʿAlī b. Abū Ṭālib
    One of the ten (promised Paradise)d. 40 AH
    عَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍأحد العشرة
    عن
  2. al-Ḥārith al-Aʿwar
    al-Shaʿbī called him a liar in his opinions, and he was accused of Rāfiḍism, and there is weakness in his hadithd. 65 AH
    الْحَارِثِكذبه الشعبي في رأيه ورمي بالرفض ، وفي حديثه ضعف
    عن
  3. Abū Isḥāq al-Sabīʿī
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a prolific narrator (mukthir), devout (ʿābid); his memory became confused (ikhtalaṭa) at the end of his lifed. Ibn ʿUyaynah said 126 AH, Yaḥyā b. Saʿīd said 127 AH, Abū Nuʿaym said 128 AH, ʿAmr b. ʿAlī said 129 AH, Ibn Maʿīn said 132 AH
    أَبِي إِسْحَاقَثقة مكثر عابد , اختلط بآخره
    عن
  4. Manṣūr b. al-Muʿtamir
    Trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), and he did not commit tadlīs (lā yudallis)d. 132 AH, or 133 AH
    مَنْصُورُ بْنُ الْمُعْتَمِرِثقة ثبت ، وكان لا يدلس
    حدثنا
  5. Zuhayr
    trustworthy, precise (thiqah thabt)d. 172 AH, or: 173 AH, or: 174 AH, 177 AH
    زُهَيْرٌثقة ثبت
    حدثنا
  6. Ḥasan
    trustworthy (thiqah)d. 208 AH, or: 209, or: 210 AH
    حَسَنُ بْنُ مُوسَىثقة
    حدثنا
  7. Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
    Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com

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