Musnad Ahmad 3585
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حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ قَالَ وَلَيْسَ مِنْهَا مَنْ يَقْدُمُهَا وَقُرِئَ عَلَى سُفْيَانَ سَمِعْتُ يَحْيَى الْجَابِرَ عَنْ أَبِي مَاجِدٍ الْحَنَفِيِّ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ اللهِ يَقُولُ
سَأَلْنَا رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ عَنِ السَّيْرِ بِالْجِنَازَةِ ؟ فَقَالَ: مَتْبُوعَةٌ وَلَيْسَتْ بِتَابِعَةٍ.
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Sufyān
- And Lays Minhā Man Yaqdumuhā Waquriʾ
- Sufyān
- Yaḥyá al-Jābir
- Abū Mājid al-Ḥanafī
- ʿAbdullāh
✧ We asked the Messenger of Allah ﷺ about walking with a funeral procession. He said: "It is followed, not following."
Grades by grader
| Shuayb al-Arnaut | Weak Chain | hadithunlocked |
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What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr
إسناد هذا الحديث ليس بالقوي لأن أبا ماجد ويحيى الجابر ضعيفان
machine translationThe chain of this hadith is not strong (laysa bi-l-qawī), because Abū Mājid and Yaḥyā al-Jābir are both weak (ḍaʿīfān).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3636 - al-Tirmidhi
هذا حديث غريب لا نعرفه إلا من هذا الوجه وسمعت البخاري يضعفه
machine translationThis is a strange (gharīb) hadith; we do not know it except through this route, and I heard al-Bukhārī declare it weak (yuḍaʿʿifuhu).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3636 - Abū Bakr Aḥmad b. al-Ḥusayn al-Bayhaqī
هذا حديث ضعيف يحيى الجابر ضعيف وأبو ماجدة وقيل أبو ماجد مجهول
machine translationThis hadith is weak (ḍaʿīf). Yaḥyā al-Jābir is weak (ḍaʿīf), and Abū Mājidah, or it is said Abū Mājid, is unknown (majhūl).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3636 - Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr
هذه أحاديث كوفية لا يقوم بأسانيدها حجة
machine translationThese are Kufan hadiths; no proof (ḥujjah) can be established by their chains.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
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- ابن الملقن
وهو حديث واه لأجل يحيى الجابر و أبي ماجدة
machine translationIt is a very feeble (wāhin) hadith because of Yaḥyā al-Jābir and Abū Mājidah.
in مسند أحمد, p. 3636 - al-Bukhari
حديث أبي ماجد ضعيف
machine translationThe hadith of Abū Mājid is weak (ḍaʿīf).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3636 - Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
وضعفه البخاري وابن عدي والترمذي والنسائي والبيهقي وغيرهم
machine translationAl-Bukhārī, Ibn ʿAdī, al-Tirmidhī, al-Nasāʾī, al-Bayhaqī and others declared it weak (ḍaʿʿafahu).
in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- One of the earliest and foremost (al-sābiqūn al-awwalūn), and one of the leading scholars among the Companions; his virtues are manyd. 28 AH, or 32 AH, 33 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مَسْعُودٍمن السابقين الأولين ، ومن كبار العلماء من الصحابة ، مناقبه جمةسمعت
- unknown (majhūl)أَبِي مَاجِدٍ الْحَنَفِيِّمجهولعن
- weak in ḥadīth (layyin al-ḥadīth)d. between 131 and 140 AHيَحْيَى الْجَابِرَلين الحديثسمعت
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an imam and a proof (ḥujjah), except that his memory changed towards the end of his life; he sometimes practiced concealment (tadlīs), but only from trustworthy narrators.d. 197 AH or 198 AHسُفْيَانُثقة حافظ فقيه , إمام حجة إلا أنه تغير حفظه بأخرة , وكان ربما دلس لكن عن الثقاتحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
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