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Musnad Ahmad 3585

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حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ قَالَ وَلَيْسَ مِنْهَا مَنْ يَقْدُمُهَا وَقُرِئَ عَلَى سُفْيَانَ سَمِعْتُ يَحْيَى الْجَابِرَ عَنْ أَبِي مَاجِدٍ الْحَنَفِيِّ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ عَبْدَ اللهِ يَقُولُ

سَأَلْنَا رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ عَنِ السَّيْرِ بِالْجِنَازَةِ ؟ فَقَالَ: مَتْبُوعَةٌ وَلَيْسَتْ بِتَابِعَةٍ.

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Sufyān
  2. And Lays Minhā Man Yaqdumuhā Waquriʾ
  3. Sufyān
  4. Yaḥyá al-Jābir
  5. Abū Mājid al-Ḥanafī
  6. ʿAbdullāh

✧ We asked the Messenger of Allah ﷺ about walking with a funeral procession. He said: "It is followed, not following."

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Shuayb al-ArnautWeak Chainhadithunlocked

What scholars said about it

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  • Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

    إسناد هذا الحديث ليس بالقوي لأن أبا ماجد ويحيى الجابر ضعيفان

    machine translationThe chain of this hadith is not strong (laysa bi-l-qawī), because Abū Mājid and Yaḥyā al-Jābir are both weak (ḍaʿīfān).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
  • al-Tirmidhi

    هذا حديث غريب لا نعرفه إلا من هذا الوجه وسمعت البخاري يضعفه

    machine translationThis is a strange (gharīb) hadith; we do not know it except through this route, and I heard al-Bukhārī declare it weak (yuḍaʿʿifuhu).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
  • Abū Bakr Aḥmad b. al-Ḥusayn al-Bayhaqī

    هذا حديث ضعيف يحيى الجابر ضعيف وأبو ماجدة وقيل أبو ماجد مجهول

    machine translationThis hadith is weak (ḍaʿīf). Yaḥyā al-Jābir is weak (ḍaʿīf), and Abū Mājidah, or it is said Abū Mājid, is unknown (majhūl).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
  • Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr

    هذه أحاديث كوفية لا يقوم بأسانيدها حجة

    machine translationThese are Kufan hadiths; no proof (ḥujjah) can be established by their chains.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
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  • ابن الملقن

    وهو حديث واه لأجل يحيى الجابر و أبي ماجدة

    machine translationIt is a very feeble (wāhin) hadith because of Yaḥyā al-Jābir and Abū Mājidah.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
  • al-Bukhari

    حديث أبي ماجد ضعيف

    machine translationThe hadith of Abū Mājid is weak (ḍaʿīf).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 3636
  • Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī

    وضعفه البخاري وابن عدي والترمذي والنسائي والبيهقي وغيرهم

    machine translationAl-Bukhārī, Ibn ʿAdī, al-Tirmidhī, al-Nasāʾī, al-Bayhaqī and others declared it weak (ḍaʿʿafahu).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 3636

Other narrations of this report

Narrators

  1. One of the earliest and foremost (al-sābiqūn al-awwalūn), and one of the leading scholars among the Companions; his virtues are manyd. 28 AH, or 32 AH, 33 AH
    عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مَسْعُودٍمن السابقين الأولين ، ومن كبار العلماء من الصحابة ، مناقبه جمة
    سمعت
  2. unknown (majhūl)
    أَبِي مَاجِدٍ الْحَنَفِيِّمجهول
    عن
  3. weak in ḥadīth (layyin al-ḥadīth)d. between 131 and 140 AH
    يَحْيَى الْجَابِرَلين الحديث
    سمعت
  4. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an imam and a proof (ḥujjah), except that his memory changed towards the end of his life; he sometimes practiced concealment (tadlīs), but only from trustworthy narrators.d. 197 AH or 198 AH
    سُفْيَانُثقة حافظ فقيه , إمام حجة إلا أنه تغير حفظه بأخرة , وكان ربما دلس لكن عن الثقات
    حدثنا
  5. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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