Musnad Ahmad 21189
✧ Zar bin Habish, regarding Abu bin Ka'ab
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حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ عَنْ عَبْدةَ وَعَاصِمٍ عَنْ زِرٍّ قَالَ
قُلْتُ لِأُبَيٍّ: إِنَّ أَخَاكَ يَحُكُّهُمَا مِنَ الْمُصْحَفِ. - قِيلَ لِسُفْيَانَ: ابْنُ مَسْعُودٍ؟ فَلَمْ يُنْكِرْ - قَالَ: سَأَلْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ فَقَالَ: " قِيلَ لِي، فَقُلْتُ. فَنَحْنُ نَقُولُ كَمَا قَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Sufyān b. ʿUyaynah
- ʿAbdh and ʿĀṣim
- Zir
✧ I said to my father: "Indeed, your brother is taking them from the Mus'haf." It was said to Sufyan ibn Mas'ud, "Is that true?" He did not deny it. He said, "I asked the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, and he said, 'It was said to me, so I said it.' " Sufyan said, "He used to seek refuge for both of them, and they are not in the Mus'haf of Ibn Mas'ud. He would make them a means of seeking protection for al-Hasan and al-Husayn, but he did not recite them in any part of his prayer. So he thought they were two surahs for seeking refuge and persisted in his belief. Those who came after him confirmed that they are from the Qur'an, so they preserved them and entrusted them to him."
Notes
قَالَ سُفْيَانُ يَحُكُّهُمَا الْمُعَوِّذَتَيْنِ وَلَيْسَا فِي مُصْحَفِ ابْنِ مَسْعُودٍ كَانَ يَرَى رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ يُعَوِّذُ بِهِمَا الْحَسَنَ وَالْحُسَيْنَ وَلَمْ يَسْمَعْهُ يَقْرَؤُهُمَا فِي شَيْءٍ مِنْ صَلَاتِهِ فَظَنَّ أَنَّهُمَا عُوذَتَانِ وَأَصَرَّ عَلَى ظَنِّهِ وَتَحَقَّقَ الْبَاقُونَ كَوْنَهُمَا مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ فَأَوْدَعُوهُمَا إِيَّاهُ
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- Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī
هو في الصحيح خلا حكهما من المصحف رواه أحمد والطبراني ورجال أحمد رجال الصحيح
machine translationIt is in the Ṣaḥīḥ, except for their erasure from the muṣḥaf. Aḥmad and al-Ṭabarānī narrated it, and the men of Aḥmad are the men of the Ṣaḥīḥ.
in مسند أحمد, p. 21518 - أبو زرعة الرازي
حديث الثوري أصح عن أبي وهو أحفظهم وأعلى من هؤلاء بدرجات والحديث بأبي أشبه إذ كان قد رواه عاصم عن زر عن أبي عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وليس لحذيفة عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في المعوذتين معنى
machine translationThe hadith of al-Thawrī from Ubayy is more sound (aṣaḥḥ); he is the best memorizer among them and is higher than these by several degrees. The hadith is more fitting as from Ubayy, since ʿĀṣim narrated it from Zirr, from Ubayy, from the Prophet ﷺ, and Ḥudhayfah has nothing from the Prophet ﷺ concerning the two Muʿawwidhatayn that carries any weight.
in مسند أحمد, p. 21518
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- One of the distinguished Companions (min fuḍalāʾ al-ṣaḥābah)d. 19 AH, or 20 AH, or 22 AH, or 30 AH, or 32 AH, or 33 AHأُبَيُّ بْنُ كَعْبٍمن فضلاء الصحابةقال
- trustworthy (thiqah), eminentd. 81 AH, or: 82 AH, or: 83 AHزِرٍّثقة جليلعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq) with some errors (awhām)d. 127 AH, or: 128 AHوَعَاصِمٍصدوق له أوهامعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an imam and a proof (ḥujjah), except that his memory changed towards the end of his life; he sometimes practiced concealment (tadlīs), but only from trustworthy narrators.d. 197 AH or 198 AHسُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَثقة حافظ فقيه , إمام حجة إلا أنه تغير حفظه بأخرة , وكان ربما دلس لكن عن الثقاتحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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