Musnad Ahmad 20686
✧ Amr bin Salama
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حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَاحِدِ بْنُ وَاصِلٍ الْحَدَّادُّ حَدَّثَنَا مِسْعَرٌ أَبُو الْحَارِثِ الْجَرْمِيُّ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ عَمْرَو بْنَ سَلِمَةَ الْجَرْمِيَّ يُحَدِّثُ
أَنَّ أَبَاهُ وَنَفَرًا مِنْ قَوْمِهِ وَفَدُوا إِلَى رَسُولِ اللهِ ﷺ حِينَ ظَهَرَ أَمْرُهُ، وَتَعَلَّمَ النَّاسُ الْقُرْآنَ فَقَضَوْا حَوَائِجَهُمْ، ثُمَّ سَأَلُوهُ مَنْ يُصَلِّي لَنَا أَوْ يُصَلِّي بِنَا ؟ فَقَالَ: يُصَلِّي لَكُمْ أَوْ بِكُمْ أَكْثَرُكُمْ جَمْعًا لِلْقُرْآنِ أَوْ أَخْذًا لِلْقُرْآنِ [قَالَ] فَقَدِمُوا عَلَى قَوْمِهِمْ فَسَأَلُوا فِي الْحَيِّ، فَلَمْ يَجِدُوا أَحَدًا جَمَعَ أَكْثَرَ مِمَّا جَمَعْتُ، فَقَدَّمُونِي بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ فَصَلَّيْتُ بِهِمْ وَأَنَا غُلَامٌ عَلَيَّ شَمْلَةٌ لِي، قَالَ: فَمَا شَهِدْتُ مَجْمَعًا مِنْ جَرْمٍ إِلَّا كُنْتُ إِمَامَهُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِي هَذَا
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Chain of narrators
- ʿAbd al-Wāḥid b. Wāṣil al-Ḥaddād
- Misʿar Abū al-Ḥārith al-Jarmī
- ʿAmraw b. Salimah al-Jarmī Yuḥaddith
✧ His father and a group of his people came as a delegation to the Messenger of Allah ﷺ when his affair became apparent, and the people had learned the Qur'an. They fulfilled their needs, then asked him: "Who should lead us in prayer?" He said: "The one among you who has collected the most Qur'an, or has taken the most Qur'an, should lead you." [He said:] They returned to their people and asked in the neighborhood, and they did not find anyone who had collected more than I had collected. So they put me forward before them, and I led them in prayer while I was a young boy wearing a cloak of mine. He said: I have not attended any gathering of Jarm except that I was their imam until this day of mine.
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- Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal
كان يضعف أمر عمرو بن سلمة وقال مرة دعه ليس بشيء بين
machine translationHe used to consider the case of ʿAmr b. Salamah weak (ḍaʿīf), and once he said: "Leave him, he is nothing (laysa bi-shayʾ)"; it is clear.
in مسند أحمد, p. 20954
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- a Companion, he came in a delegation (to the Prophet ﷺ)سَلَمَةُ بْنُ قَيْسٍ الْجَرْمِيُّصحابي , له وفادةيحدث
- Young Companion (ṣaḥābī)d. 85 AHعَمْرَو بْنَ سَلِمَةَ الْجَرْمِيَّصحابي صغيرسمعت
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. between 141 and 150 AHمِسْعَرٌ أَبُو الْحَارِثِ الْجَرْمِيُّثقةحدثنا
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 190 AHعَبْدُ الْوَاحِدِ بْنُ وَاصِلٍ الْحَدَّادُّثقةحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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